What’s your preferred rain proof layer?

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  1. Mfraser161

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    Do you go with a gore-Tex hard shell? vinyl poncho? Waxed material/oil skin ? Etc etc.
    My go to has been a vinyl poncho for years.
     
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    If I'm following cows on a quad or loading a truck, not high movement sort of stuff but out and fully exposed to the weather I find nothing beats the old school yellow PVC top and bottoms, anything too strenuous and you just end up wet from the inside out with sweat.

    Otherwise an oilskin coat or a swanndri, if I'm in the bush and it's raining I'll take a bit of damp over being steamed.
    The best for working/moving in that I found is an oilskin butterfly cape, keeps you dry enough but lets you move freely.

    A USGI poncho or similar is on my list to get, a friend had one when we were little kids, we'd walk to school under it if it was real wet, use it as a tarp and a groundsheet and shade in the summer, great bit of gear.
     
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    A BW surplus gore-tex jacket. Or, if I have to carry a bag or backpack, a poncho.
     
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    I have a USGI poncho for main pack. If using haversack on short day hike I only carry a space blanket to put overhead to fend of scattered showers.
     
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    German Army poncho. For short day hikes a large trash bag.
     
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    I have a GoreTex jacket and use it in the summer but I keep a BCO poncho in my bag for winter or when it's really raining hard.
     
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    Marmot Precip. My avatar shows each of us wearing one. In my backpack I carry a FroggTogg UL2.
     
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    Good Morning Yall,

    To me personally, this depends 100% on the task ahead and time spend outside. My daily commuter is a filson tin cloth jacket, which I wax rarely. It does the job for walking the dog, chilling in the garden, getting to work and so on. If I have to depend on it for days or weeks and the weather may get tough, I will pick my Filson all season rain coat, best ever rain jacket to me (dont like plastic). I do have a Mammut Gore Pro Shell though, which I will use for more sportive / ultralight quick actions (Just used it on a boat trip over the weekend). During the summer and warmer days in autumn and fall, I couldnt be bothered mostly. I generally wear wool and dont care if it gets wet for a while. Might have the Filson to go over it, but rarely comes to use.

    This way I was able to use my last Gore Jacket for almost 13 years. Hoping this one will do even longer. The Tin Cruiser will hopefully do 5-10 years, but it has some hard times with me. My wool coats and all season rain coat will hopefully do longer than I. Trying to buy stuff only once, in order to consume as little as necessary to get me through whatever.

    Best Regards,
    Robert
     
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    For extended heavy rain I’ve found that rubber/pvc etc. works best...but at a cost. They don’t breathe.
     
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    USGI poncho used it 5 years in SAR. No leaks and in severe weather makes a small tent one can hunker down in.
     
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    in weather other than Texas heat my oilskin duster is the goto protective layer

    in hot weather the goto layer simply involves Gore-Tex
     
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    SoAz - no rain is preferred....

    If I have to be out in the rain, a HH rainsuit is da bomb...
     
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    Hi Drifter,

    You might want to consider some thin tin cloth or a tight cotton canvas for warm weather. Gore works best when its super cold. The difference between inside an outsode temperature is what does the trick (sure there are some physic cracks here which can explain why). If it is actually hot or warm, you will get wet by sweating inside it, because it wont work correctly. Generally speaking, Gore should be recommended for cold weather only (maybe up to mild temperatures, were it will still semi work).

    Best Regards,
    Robert
     
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    Have used USGI poncho, USGI gortex, cheap vinyl ponchos, silicone-covered nylon jacket, Dri-Ducks/Frogg Toggs, the heavy rubberized suits, and BCUSA poncho. I also own a silnylon Gatewood Cape but haven't had it out in the rain yet.

    My preference is for a poncho of any sort, due to ventilation.

    I've yet to find a product that breathes while I'm working in the rain. Frogg Toggs come close, but are single-use and the Dry Ducks are very flimsy (enough to hike in, not enough to work in reliably.)

    I find it easiest to wear quick drying clothes/socks/shoes, and just ward off the worst with a poncho, then worry about drying out later. As I see it, you're going to get wet from the rain or from sweat.
     
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    When back packing I have some light weight gore-Tex when hunting I have some heavier quieter gore-Tex , for rougher work I have a Kakadu oil skin drovers coat. Living in the Pacific North Wet most of my jackets are at least water resistant.
     
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    In a word, absolutely! Air temperature strongly affects how well (or poorly) Gore-Tex works. I think it's because of something called vapor pressure but I'm no 'physics crack.' :D
     
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    Pacific NW here, so lots of anti rain options in the arsenal.

    Been wearing a Paramo Velez jacket. Bit difficult to get on with what with the slippery material but it really does work in the way it says it should ... which is to say by some sort of strange pixie magic
     
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    BW surplus gore tex.

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    "Found" something I forgot I had, buried in a closet. A dutch waterproof stand-alone liner.
    Years earlier I had installed press studs on it to close it like a jacket. Thiswill keep me dry no matter what jacket I wear on top.

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    I pickup a TNF Hyperair on a clearance sale this summer using the lastest Gore Shakedry. It’s an UL’er at 5oz; ~25% heavier/larger-packing than a Houdini windshirt. Very neat material - permanent hydrophobic water beading surface so it’s 100% waterproof, will never wet-out, and it literally ‘shakes dry’. It’s also is Gore’s most breathable WP fabric (primarily marketed to the running/bicycling market), said to be as good the Houdini - it’s only recently been chilly enough for me test breathability, but so far so good. Downside is that it’s fragile, so no bushwhacking.

    That said, I usually have an EDC bag with me that I’d like to keep dry too, so end up mostly using a poncho tarp or tent.
     
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    I been eyeing these new permanent finishes, too :)

    Might be a whole closetful of jackets to discard
     
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    Got a pair, well actually several, of helly hansen stretch rubber pants and a columbia rain proof jacket.
    But I prefer to stay home in the rain.
     
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    I've used vortex, usgi ponchos, yellow PBS suits and Filson waxed tin, for me Filson has been the best. It's the only one were I can actually get any work done without getting soaked from sweat.
     
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    I've got a pretty nice umbrella, but I'd have to say my roof. Call me a wuss, but if it's raining I tend to stay indoors, e.g. home, restaurants, etc.
     
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    Wilderness Innovations poncho has been a mainstay for a few years now .
     
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    Awesome piece of kit..my only complaint is that is a bit noisy. Sure works well as a shell though.
     
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    I've got various items with various technologies (old and new) that work at different levels but for full exposure in a real drencher my choice is Gore-Tex. My current set is Gen III ECWCS Level 6. Though instead of the hood, I prefer to use a full brim oilskin hat. Not the one in my avatar, which has a mesh top, but a darker brown one that's full oilskin with a slightly less wide brim.
     
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    I carry a Columbia Titanium shell similar to a pre-cip when I'm on dayhikes and a Frogg Togg on my lightweight backpack trips. Last year I wore a homemade rain kilt out of sil nylon with a frogg toggs jacket. Both combined weighed about 7 ounces.
     
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    Your post hit the nail on the head. Water is going to trickle down your neck when you flip your hood up, extend your arms above your head and it will run down the inside of the sleeve,it will shed of the rain coat and soak your pants and shoes.
    Rain always wins in the end..
     
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    i prefer a roof first actually
     
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    I've carried an old rubberized military poncho with me on trips for 30+ years, it's very seldom used, but great if I ever need it....some trips I travel a ways for, so rain stoppage isn't much of an option
     
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    I prefer poncho , no matter how much rain , you are dry , you keep you pack dry and most importantly you have ventilation so you don't sweat , usually that's what sucks with rain gear
     
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    Military poncho(and woobie)I plan t cut a hole in the woobie so I can wear it as a poncho as well.Then it can be attached to my military poncho.
     
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    A simple T-cut, shoulders/throat, will get you started... enlarge slowly until you figure out how big it actually has to be to get your head through. Then do a blanket stitch by hand, or zig-zag by machine (unless you have a fancy one that will do a blanket stitch) around the edges to keep it from shredding. Might even just whip stitch it and then cover the edge with fleece.
     
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    That should be issue...
     
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    You would think, at least for the infantry.

    I know a lot of us tankers used to carry a field jacket liner (same woobie material) and wear it under the old Gumbi Suit rainjacket until we could afford to have a seamstress line it with a woobie or wool blanket, making what was called a "Graf Jacket". But the poncho liner was more material and could be used as a blanket.
     
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    Ponchos for me. It's not easy finding a raincoat in really big sizes (4XL is not "really big") that is actually waterproof, even when it is marketed as a slicker. Ponchos are just more versatile for occasional use and a lot cooler when it's hot and raining. I have a couple, but the Frogg Toggs gets the most use. It's too flimsy to double as a ground cloth, but it's so light you can take it with you all the time in or clipped onto your EDC bag.
     
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    Equinox Poncho, doubles as a fair-weather or emergency shelter.

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    When I was Infantry a never saw a soldier use a poncho for anything other than a shelter, a litter, as an outer layer of a woobie sleeping bag, or to protect gear in a river crossing, etc., but never worn as personnel raingear. In rain, we wore jackets.
     
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    Silnylon poncho all the way. I have a goretex rain suit but never use it.
     
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    If just getting from building to car or vise versa, an umbrella. If only out in the weather for a short period of time, a gortex top. If going to be out on the weather for an extended period of time then a poncho. I also carry a poncho with me every time I hit the woods.

    Ponchos, to me, breath better, cover more area to include a pack, and can also be used as a shelter. I live in Florida so I really don't have to worry too much about layers in cold weather either. So, the little bit of leg that always gets wet when wearing a poncho is not too big a deal down here.
     
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    I will say that though I typically outfit with both Gore-Tex jacket and pants, I almost always just use the jacket. The full set is more useful if you want to just sit or stand out in the middle of a full downpour and laugh at the weather...

    I keep the jacket in the truck to keep it handy. Next to my hat. I'm not an umbrella guy.
     

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