What could this be?

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  1. americanstrat98

    americanstrat98 Wanderer Supporter Bushcraft Friend

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    What is this?

    A Cultivator tooth, the tip of a Lance, top of a fence railing? It looks to be rough forged, there is heavy pitting on one side of the shaft. The shaft is broken off from whatever it belonged to. I picked it up at an antique store in Bridger Montana along with some old files. It was at the bottom of a box full of old tools. It looks to have been caked in dirt at one point in its life.

    Any ideas?

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  2. ExAF1N1

    ExAF1N1 Purveyor of sharps and savory burnables. Supporter

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    Guessing lance point, but that's guessing on my part. Cool find though!
     
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    I bet Otzi would like it.
     
  4. Stophel

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    I would have figured it was a seed drill maybe.
     
  5. Jim L.

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    I agree with @ExAF1N1 . It looks like a lance point. @Stophel may also be right.

    Maybe, its the lance point to a seed drill that may have been broken off.

    How does it spark?
     
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    It's been well-hammered, maybe it started off as one of those but someone has 'modded' it a bit I would guess. I like the wrought-iron fence detail theory.
     
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    It looks similar to some of the older style Mason's Pins that are used over here, They are used in pairs and are driven into the join between building stone blocks with a line stretched between them to gauge levels.
    Brick Layers still use a similar Pin, but Laser Levels are now more commonly used.
    Usually they have a flat head or are burred over where they are struck with a club hammer, does that one show cut marks on the flat end?

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    Looks like a lance point but that is just what I see...sharpen it, haft it and hang it on the wall.
     
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    Roman lance (spear) point?

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    Looks like a traditional Kunai
    Weapon of the Japanese Ninja
     
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    I’d guess a lance point.
     
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    It does look like a lance point, Looks like a nice one too.
     
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    That looks promising. I would have said a Lance point too, but there is no anchor points near the head, and there is no socket. The edges have been dressed at some point in its life which makes me think it was recovered from the ground, then messed with.

    It was a neat object to see, and having a deep appreciation for American Indian history I snagged it. I may just make a socket out of the shaft, then haft it. I'm in no rush.
     
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    If you Google west African spearheads, or African tribal spears, you’ll see quite a few similar things like that. Burkina Faso and such.
     
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    A metalergist should be able to discern the approximate age the tool came from it might be museum worthy .
     
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    I'd vote Mason pin....used by Vikings
     
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    Now that I've seen them, I'm going with mason's pins too. An ordinary tool in an ordinary box of ordinary tools is much more plausible than an exotic lance point in an ordinary box of ordinary tools...
     
  18. Richinva

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    FIFY
     
  19. americanstrat98

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    Lol, of course who wouldn't love to have Viking tools? I just may send it to a specialist, but not getting my hopes up. It does resemble African Spears due to the shaft's thickness. The blade is on the small side , but I think it is most likely a mason pin. That makes a lot of sense. What mkes me have doubts is the amount of 1860's tools, and merchant measuring devices that it was stored with.
     
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    Regardless of what it was originally, you could use it as a lance point...
     
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    Unfinished Civil War Pike head :54: I don't know, but I'll go $50 on the watch!
     
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