What Gear Would You Like to See in Our Store??

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  1. Dubhelix

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    I'd like to see 10x10 tarps in kryptek highlander or ATACS.

    Also interested (perhaps) in 7x7 tarps. (70% of the coverage at 49% of the weight.)

    I just bought another one of y'all's excellent tarps in woodland. They're the real deal.
     
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    A 7X7 is 49 sq/ ft...49% of a 10 X 10 100 sq/ft
     
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    Right, but I'm not square. I'm linear.

    The edge (10ft vs 7ft) and the diagonal (14.14ft vs 9.9ft) both provide 70% of the linear coverage (eg how long a body fits).

    A 7x7 could be strung on the diagonal, still cover my bivy and pack, and, as you mentioned, contain 49% as much material.

    Like a Super-Mest.

    Anyway. Just an idea. The 10X10's are pretty sweet as they are.
     
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    Hard to balance between what you should carry and what our excellent vendors already carry.... but basically, as you look through threads about "what's the best ____", it's a pretty good bet that certain items stand out due to their excellence (not popularity, but use by folks who are doers, not armchair schrafters). These are the items you should concentrate on... there are too many to list.
     
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    If somebody is buying, I don't think it matters if they use it or not as long as they bought it from you--in fairness.
     
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    +1 on saws. Boreal21, Sven Saws, maybe a take down buck saw like the Adventure Sworn?
     
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    A second for organization supplies. Canvas zippered pouches, different sized tins, stuff/dry sacks.
     
  8. IA Woodsman

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    I have read all of your suggestions. Some we will be implementing very soon. I will say that there is absolutely no way we can beat Amazon on most products. The only way we do that is by developing and making our own innovative gear. Thanks for taking the time to post up your ideas.
     
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    Amazon has gotten a lot higher priced than many of the vendors people had drifted away from. Which is kind of surprising, since many of those same vendors now sell on Amazon 4-5 years later...

    I was just looking at binoculars today and Amazon Prime was higher priced on all of them. If I recall it was thirty bucks higher on a $200-ish pair. Higher than Optics Planet and they had the same free shipping. Plus OP was giving you an additional 10% off on top of that.

    It's all in the markup. What someone is willing to make and still consider it a profit.
     
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    I just google-dredged an old thread in which Guy was discussing the licensing and associated cost increases with the Kryptek pattern. That would explain why there's little likelihood of Highlander tarps.

    I do see that ATACS FG and AU are available in PU costed 1.9 ripstop nylon, so maybe there's hope for that.
     
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    Well what I was saying in my earlier post, even if you don't compete with Amazon for a better price and you can match or even a few dollars more, if you're already ordering a BCO tarp or something you might as well add a couple more items in while your there. I don't like the time it takes to shop multiple places or make multiple transactions and would prefer to have one shipment to keep up with. And not everyone has Prime, not to mention some items are add on on Amazon, especially smaller items which means $25 or more, or no Prime available. Again I'd assume order multiple at once. And order from a company I trust as opposed to an unknown vendor. I paid a few dollars more and shopping last Delica 4 I ordered because I was afraid of the remote possibility of getting a knockoff on Amazon (even though rare).

    @IA Woodsman don't try to compete, just be reasonable. People order from you because they trust your judgment in quality and knowing you back what you sell as well as vendor loyalty.
     
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    Yes, you should at least be close in price.
     
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    I rarely shop amazon anyway...dont like them much.
     
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    I concur!
     
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    Yes, they've really gotten out of hand. But sometimes they are the only show in town.

    I went to buy a tarp earlier in the week and went to a popular bushcrafter's site. The tarp was under $100, so I would have to pay for shipping. No problem, I should be able to buy another item or two, right? Wrong. I looked at three other items I was interested in and every one was out of stock. And they don't back order.
    So off to Amazon where they were not only 20 bucks less, I got free shipping.

    Twenty dollars on a less than $100 item is a good percentage, but had the private site had some of the other items in stock I probably would have bought from them.

    So stock is important, too.
     
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    I would be happy with decent cook ware and kettle options
     
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    @IA Woodsman if you have access to a good, reliable machine shop a tent stove would be a nice niche item that’s seems to be hard to bring to market for some vendors. A reliable machine shop all together would open a host of BCO innovative gear possibilities. Josh
     
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    I agree with some previous comments. Organizational equipment (pouches, stuff sacks, etc...) would probably be a great addition. I also think that adding more cookware would be good. I'd like to see some frying pans/pots/mugs/sporks in various materials (titanium, aluminum, and steel options).

    It's just my opinion, but it probably wouldn't hurt to carry Moras. I know they are available everywhere, but they are cheap enough that people would likely add them onto an existing order. I also think some lighting options would be nice. Definitely the UCO candle lanterns, and maybe some flashlights/headlamps too. I would also highly recommend carrying the expedition research pack grill.

    In my opinion, the tarps are the foundation of BCO. I love 12x10 and my MEST poncho, and will immediately replace them when they wear out. The quality/value of the BCO tarps make them a staple. Keep innovating in that area. Other colors and configurations would probably sell well.
     
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    Mest and 10x10 Tarps in Kryptek Highlander.
     
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    The modern equivalent of Otzi's kit.
     
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    Would be nice to get a titanium stake set like @IA Woodsman uses in his Mother carrier for the Mest and cooking pot stand. The 4 peg stakes and 2 shepherds hook stakes in a set.
     
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    If you guys made a 7x7 I would get one in OD green and give away my 10x7.
     
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    Millbank Bag.

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    Many uses, sew a couple of belt loops on it to make a Dump Pouch/ Forage Bag.
    Also useful as a storage Bag to store dirty gear in and keep gear in pack clean.
    Makes a great Hot Pot grabber.
    100% Cotton Duck is available at most fabric stores.
    The scraps make some of the best char cloth I have used.
    If big enough it could be a Bear Bag for hanging food.
     
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    Would love to see a decent first aid kit. Something we bushcrafty types would be proud to deploy on a moments notice. As an example I picked up a sewing kit from @Redcon1 awhile back (https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/sami-inspired-sewing-repair-kit-new-and-improved.189830/) and it's so much nicer to carry than a Ziploc baggie full of needles and thread. It would be nice to have a first aid kit that's more than just an afterthought bag of bandages.

    Backstory: I don't currently carry a first aid kit because I'm male and therefore impervious to injury of any kind. (<- sarcasm) But this weekend I was on a trail with my kids and we passed a father and daughter (probably 4 yr old) who had cut her finger and was crying. Not being able to whip out a band-aid made me feel like the most useless strain of pond scum. I vowed to never be so ill prepared again.

    So, to summarize... think of the children... carry first aid kits in your store so we bushcraft ambassadors can go out and save the world one cut finger at a time!
     
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    This isnt a bad idea. Something a little more robust than the common individual FAKs offered at most outdoor stores, but not so big as the "group" FAKs. So a boo boo kit, general drugs for pain, heart attack, allergic reactions... maybe some burn gel and sting kit. Splinter and tick removal. Rehydration electrolytes. Then some generalized trauma (TQ and compression bandages)
     
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    If your going to get into shelters other than tarps, something like this would great and reasonably light weight if made out of your tarp fabric...

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    I've been thinking on that FAK and the more I think about it the more I like it.
    But not just your run of the mill FAK. Something more "bushcrafty". Maybe a nice folding leather pouch with compartments filled with the necessities. Chances are it's going into a waterproof pack anyway. Something with BCUSA's logo on it or Bushcraft Outfitters.
    You could have small compartments/slots that hold small pill bottles, or maybe ten or so Band-Aides... and a couple larger compartments for Altoids tins or other similar containers.
    Just spitballin' here ;)
     
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    This thread might go on for a long, long time.

    Any cheap milsurp that serves a bushcraft purpose wouldn't hurt.

    Be nice if someone could identify a useful product before it goes over $10.00

    Think of all the things we "should have" grabbed a pile of back when they were three for $10
     
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    what gets me about the site is the name and content,
    When i see/hear Bushcraft i am thinking more basic materials, man made items, using resources thats around us in the field, DIY stuff
    when i browse the site i am not thinking bushcraft, i am thinking army surplus
    what i would like to see, firemaking materials, like strikers,
    craft supplies like leather tools, maybe even small squares of leather large enough for common thing like make your own sheath,
    more US made items, preferably by local craftsmen,
    when i was looking for a tarp i browsed your site i didnt choose your tarp because its made overseas, fabric is from overseas, i dont consider adding tabs as made in US
    i chose someone elses tarp as they make the fabric inhouse in PA.
     
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    ^ This. Is it me, or do zippers seem counter-intuitive on a FAK? I picture myself in the middle of nowhere with a <sharp object> wound in one hand while frantically trying to unzip the FAK with the other... and maybe my teeth... or feet.
     
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    THIS ...SO MUCH THIS!! or even silnylon or hex fabric like @xRangerx used to make. Loved his pouches and wanted to get a set but wasnt ready with $$ at the time and by the time I was ready he stopped making them :(
     
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    Wish I could take credit for this. But that would be @Phantom X. He’s got the sewing skills, I’ve got the dashing good looks
     
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    That’s right. My mistype .... @Phantom X pouches were great
     
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    There is NO such thing as Free Shipping- You're paying for it somewhere. If you're an Amazon Prime member, (like myself) you and me and 65,000,000+ other folks have paid $99.00 each for "free" shipping. Do the math....
     
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    We actually do have tarps that are all USA made materials. Unlike the electronic device you are using.
     
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    @IA Woodsman how about carrying that heavy cover fork spoon combo in your Instagram post from yesterday? That thing is freaking SWEET!! and I have never seen prior till checking out your IG post from the sick burn your posted above in your sig line.
     
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    What about some sort of Bear Bag kit. I currently have a dry bag and length of paracord. It normally gets tangled up. Not a huge pain but i saw this and thought it was unique https://www.bushsmarts.com/collections/camp-gear/products/bear-star and thought it was cool... but these are overcharging the hipster wannabe lumberjack crowd
     
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    Jeez!! A 10x9 tarp of silnylon is $175??? That is more than the 10x12 Multicam tarp that we have to pay licensing fees for!!
     
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    I know right!!! It’s stupidly over priced. A friend of mine emailed me the site with a subject line “what are they smoking!?!?”
     
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    Been thinking about this a little more. I don’t like battoning my good knife so how about a froe made to split wood that you could field mount a handle to? Make it 12” oaL, 1/4” single edge 30 degree Bevle with a hefty 2” round eye to fit a tree limb. If you made a 12” piece of steel water pipe with a 90 on one end you could use it like an “l” shaped froe or attach it via the 90 and have a 24” long chopper. Sort of a combination tool.
     
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    Can't access the outfitters site here at work ( Guess they have something against weapons?) so I can't check to see if Mora's in various sizes are listed.
     
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    Bacon containers

    Butter containers

    Oil containers
     
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    I will echo what others have already said and what I am currently looking for:

    Silnylon pouches for organization and that fit precisely in the mother canteen carrier pouches.
    First aid kit (like the one you had on the website before)
    PSK (like the one you had on the website before)
    Titanium tent stake stove idea
    Enamel, stainless, or titanium coffee cup w/ logo
    Small comprehensive fishing kit
     
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    Gaiters, like the Swiss army ones. Reasonably priced, not intended to assualt Everest
     
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    Like it was said before, it would be extremely hard to compete with amazon on smaller gear items. I know that most of us are always looking for deals on forum vendor and other high quality boutique custom pieces to add to our kit. Perhaps have multiple forum members be given the chance to make a BCUSA exclusive knife or other tool design to submit to you and chose several to be put on the forum in bulk at a price point of $150 or lower, also some full tang blade blanks in O1 or better steel would be great too.

    -a BCUSA titanium twig stove
    -a bushcraft bivy that can be staked to the ground with a bugnet insert
    -possibles pouches made by forum members like PhantomX
    -removable leather belt loop dangler for knife sheaths
    -An EDC or PSK sized knife with skeletonized handles in O1 steel with a 2 1/2-3'' blade length (like the Sargent PSK's) sold in bulk with a price point under $100
    -a BCUSA leather knife sheath that will fit a 4-5'' blade length bushcraft knife that has the ability for cordage to be wrapped around it
    -A baldric rig for a large knife or axe that can carry an axe saw combo if needed.
    -start carrying West wood axe handles, they are the most premium axe handle out there and they will sell like crazy if more people know about them!
    -gransfors bruks axes, because they go out of stock on most sites super often. Especially the outdoor axe!
    -a durable daypack in 500d cordura that is less tactical and more "bushcraft" looking, like the HPG offerings, but with the ability to fit the HC canteen on the side and with ample top and bottom straps for adding a bed roll or sleeping bag. A daypack with removable side pouches would be awesome (like your Urban Zippy from Kifaru). I think most of us would be thrilled to find a simple daypack that isn't super tactical or the neon colors of most hiking bags.
     
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    You know what would be great??? BCUSA wool sweaters that's what. Old Army commando style green or brown wool sweaters. The BCUSA jackets those deserve a comeback. +1,000,000,000 on the BCUSA Bivy covers but I'd like to see bed rolls to.
     
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    +1 on the sweater and +1 on the jackets.

    ETA: Lightweight but durable rain gear. Also, if possible, I would try to find away to brand everything you sell. Just a suggestion.
     
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