What is the opposite of survival?

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  1. Hoof

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    I bought one and have plans for a whole trip report revolving around it.

















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    That's one way to avoid ticks.

    ETA: To answer the thread title's question, I say capitulate. To surrender, give up.
     
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    Unless they have learned to swim!
     
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    Well if that river is in Ohio you've got a whole set of new problems now ;)
     
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    Sleeping on the water incased in plastic. What could go wrong?
     
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    I could see using that while anchored in a lake.

    Of course you would have to paddle ashore to poop. Or cut a hole in the center...

    ;)
     
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    Actually it might be fairly safe. To me it looks like a modification of an emergency life raft/shelter that ships carry. If people can float on the ocean in one for weeks at a time I'm a sure a weekend on the local lake will be OK !
     
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    Opposite of survival is dying. Simple. Sooner or later the death rate is the same all over, one life, one death.
     
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    Seems dangerous to be exposed to that large concentration of dihydrogen monoxide that thing is obviously floating in.
     
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    I can't wait to read the ending :)

    According to Creek Stewart and @GreyOne the opposite of survival is death :D
     
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    Good eye.
    I think your right about that. It looks perfect fora multi day kayak float trip on a lake or calm river.
     
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    Ah... but there's a big difference between a raft made into a tent and a tent made into a raft ;)


    Well, obviously they must be right ;)
    I mean, how can you disagree with someone whose first name is Creek. Or is that Crick? :18:
     
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    Either death or living so well that existence was never a question.
     
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    :11::11::11::11::11::11::11::11: :34:
     
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    I was going to say the opposite of "survival" is glamping, but I may have been off base.

    You know, sleeping on the floor of that thing is probably as good as a waterbed. Beats hard ground. There's the whole "drowning in your sleep" problem, but I bet a little R&D can get that sorted out.
     
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    PFD as a pillow and a good blade to cut your way out...
    No thank you.

    ezra
     
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    Looks like a great cure for sleep walking.
     
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    I hate taking a bath worse than a cat, ain't no way ya gonna get me on one of them contraptions. joe
     
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    Used within it’s limits by individuals with common sense, I see no issues and think along with a few yaks it would make for a nice trip out. Can easily avoid the crowds of a$$holes at many campsites. I agree with Glenn Rowe, survival is the middle of the scale!
     
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    The opposite?
    Hunkering down in an old bus wreck in Alaska and not being able to feed oneself.
     
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    The answer to the title is facebook
     
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    Good to know. We will not be sharing a tent. :58:
     
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    Wonder if it’s rated for whitewater????
     
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    Haha, somebody may try it out on Niagara falls as well.
     
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    You won't catch me out there sleeping on the water when a lighting storm roles threw.

    The word spark plug comes to mind
     
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    I think combined with a few drinks it's a great idea.... uh, yeah.
     
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    Ahhh! Come one fellers where is your sense of adventure?
    Not really all that different from a life raft after all and some thick CCF on the base gives you fail safe flotation. Not all that much different to rafting two big canoes together and putting a tent platform between them really, and that was a standard technique from what I have read. As for the post heading? I guess there are two opposites of survival. Comfort or dead.
     
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    I'd use it, that doesn't really look that dangerous to me at all. As long as you don't set it up in an area that doesn't have appreciable change water levels overnight or prone to driftwood traveling down the current.
     
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    Be really interesting to set up a campfire....
     
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    Looks like there’s no baffles in that there waterbed.

    Be careful when your door is unzipped.

    I once was wrestling in a waterbed with no baffles and was thrown out onto the floor by wave action.
     
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    The opposite of survival is what Bear Grylls does.
     
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    I'd say the opposite of survive is to thrive!

    *death isn't even an option...
     
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    If you use this on a river, do you anchor somewhere or go with the flow? And if you anchor, are you likely to be speared in the night by floating debris?
     
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    Bunch of snow flakes, afraid of a little water .
    I worked on boats and spent lots of time both the water and out.
    Under water obstructions likely to be the worst issue .
    My own tent could float but I'd have a small boat along side for the gear.
    Not fond of air mattresses but I'm working on that using several independent cells .
    Being completely enclosed the inevitable insect issue is solved .
    I have slept in 16' anchored boats on the lake ,it's no big deal ,actually quite relaxing.
    Ideally though if your mattress floats and part of the tent and it rains enough to float ,long as you are anchored to something like a tree or two, or say you're off hunting and it rains, your tent and stuff stay afloat and dry .
     
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    In a survival situation, some fear, apprehension, adrenaline, heightened senses. As you overcome the challenges, I would think peace and confidence would follow. If you didn't overcome the challenge, death might be the outcome. But giving up is not in our dna.
     
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    You said a mouthful! :D:D
     
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    Death :46:

    It's a "practical course," graded Pass/Fail.
     
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    Death!! That is actually a survival raft that a large boat or ship would carry. I used to test PFDs and one of the tests was being able to crawl inside one of them.

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    During the Loma Prieta quake in 1989, a guy who was napping on a full-wave waterbed was pitched out the window.
     
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    Don't forget the floating cooler of beer.
     
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    My thoughts, too! I'd have to up my fire game a bit. I've lit fires in wet conditions but not quite that wet!:eek::D
     
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    DUMP THE BEER AND YOU HAVE A NICE, FLOATING CONTAINER THAT CAN KEEP YOU OFF WET GROUND AS WELL.
     
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    Or drink the beer and you still have the same! And you'll be better at everything... for a while... or at least you'll think so.
     
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