Whipping an ax collar

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  1. Kelly W

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    There has been recent post about axe collars and this may have been posted before.

    I am an elementary leather worker at best and I have found a cord whip to be a very effective, simple and economical way to provide a little protection for a haft. I will add that I find it more ornamental than practical.

    I would suggest that you google (or however you search) whip knot, whips, knots, or whatever it takes for you to get a better tutorial. This is just how I do it.

    Shout out to @andy.t for the really nice bank line. I ordered this for this purpose. I start with cord, tape, and an axe with the edge protected.

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    Next I tape a loop along the top of the haft.

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    Now starts the fun. Begin to wrap the cord around the haft and the loop towards the top. It is not hard but you need to wrap it as tight as you can.

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    Keep wrapping it towards the head. Keep the loop laid down. Stretch the loop as you go to make sure you don't lose it at the top. You have to have enough at the end to run your cord through to lock it down.

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    Now your getting to the important part. You have to wrap on to the head and run your cord through your loop. Like so.

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    Snug the cord and then pull the other free end with pillars to lock the knot.

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    If you wrapped it good and tight you will need pillar to pull it. The upper part of the loop should look like this.

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    Once you do it a time or two it is a very easy. It is not easy on the hands. I've not had one fall apart if tied correctly. Very durable. Not bad looking either.

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    Looks really good:dblthumb: Prov 27 : 17
     
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    I did this with jute twine on the handle of my axe. I find i get a better grip with it then the handle by itself.
     
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    Very nice! Thanks for showing this.

    I wonder how rawhide boot laces would work? I may have to try it.
     
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    Very nice work! Never even occurred to me to use it for protection. I just wanted to store extra line on my axe then decided I choke up so added the yellow grip.
    Jim

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    Nice! I do the same with a French whip(French Hitch)
     
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    I figure most any cord would work just fine.
     
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    Found this pic online. No good for a wood axe. But always liked the binding style

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    I do a paracord whip and then wrap it with hockey tape. Not as pretty, but it does protect it.
     
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    I imagine a good coat of G-flex epoxy would toughen it up even more.
     
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    I Googled whips on my phone. Girlfriend walked by, looked over my shoulder, and slapped my face.
     
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    I like the epoxy idea Eric.
     
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    Awesome! Definitely will be doing this!
     
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    KW, nice wrap!

    i haven't been able to source that stye of braided cordage locally and woud appreciate knowing where it came from

    i have been watching folks protecting their wood in similar manners for some time now and a concern popped up last week i believe about the haft being wider than the head

    this would be specifically significant when using the aze or a hatchet for splitting purposes when it would be likely to snag and pull apart

    from the pics you posted i couldn't verify for my intent if the cordage made the haft thicker than the head or not

    also i have found that pulling the tail down under the center of the wrap to hold better than kiling it off at one end or the other

    this leaves the 2 interlocking loops stressed under the wrapping making either end equally hard to dislodge
     
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    5col Survival Supply
    https://5col.com/collections/bushcraft-favorites/products/catahoula-tarred-braided
     
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    That's a fine job young fellar, I'm proud of ya. joe
     
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    I used flat braided nylon twisted Japanese style and covered with clear epoxy on my last hand axe for the grip. Over strikes due too much damage near the head for me....nice work on the whipping.
     
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    I like the idea (and looks) of the bankline. I especially like the fact that the end result is still narrower than the head.
     
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    Whipping doesn't stay put on my GB's tapered handle. So for over-strike protection I opted for bicycle inner tubing.

    Fits perfectly, quick, very secure, and offers great grip when choking up.

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    Wonder if one could do a double wrap. Maybe base layer be tarred mariners line and the top being either another layer of mariners line or paracord. I will try this soon enough.
     
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    No doubt epoxy would add alot of strength. Another aspect of the whip is that it is an easy way to always have a little cord with you in case of emergency. The glue may take that aspect out to a certain degree.

    This one is close but still a little room there.

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    I've never did a double wrap. I imagine it would work just fine as long as you tighten both wraps nice and tight. You may have just given me another project to try.
     
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    I just duct tape sheet metal or kydex to help distribute impact forces.
     
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    Looks good Kelly! U have inspired me to do the same to my axe! Ty..
     
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    Thanks, Please post your results! Pictures of axes are always a good thing. Whipping looks cool too.

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    OMG Im too whipped to do whipping tonight but it seems like a good idea. Nice looking hexagonal handle too @Kelly W
     
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    I was just looking at that hexagonal too lol
     
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    French whipping and epoxy resin here
     
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    Somebody show me French whipping, as used on an axe. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    IMG_5889.JPG IMG_5892.JPG IMG_5893.JPG IMG_5894.JPG IMG_5896.JPG IMG_5895.JPG IMG_5889.JPG Thank You Kelly W!
    I think this is way better than leather.
    I used #36 tarred mariners line on the first wrap. It was very tight and felt great in the hand.
    I wanted a little more protection from over swinging and a lot of cordage just in case. I looked online and found this:

    It was more strenuous to make than your wrap because it was more important to get it flat and tight so its not too bulgy. I also put the brade in line to absorb overswing impacts.
    At least, the paracord will protect the mariners line if I ever had to use it. I put some bees wax on the paracord after the wrap.
    Again, Thank you so much for sharing. I have a lot more wraps to do now, most with just the mariners line I think.
     
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    That came out great. I was just thinking about doing this to my Aneby. Really like how thin it is as well. Paracord just seems to bulky. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    I just did my Hults Bruks Hunters axe today and it came out great!

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    Well I didn't whip this one.. this was a on sale $11 at TSC had to get it.
    It's actually called a "boys axe" but its just the right size for a packable axe
    Anywho here's what I ended up with... 15161496153131350781450.jpg turned out okay I think!
     
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    Dang fellas y'all are knocking out of the park. My turn again I guess. Appreciate all the posts. Very inspiring.
     
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    Did a little more to my el-cheap 'o axe
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    Tried my first French whip today and added a lanyard. I really like this knot. Not (knot) complicated and easy to lay down tight. It really just a stack of half hitches.

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    How do you like a lanyard? Ive been thinkin about doing one
     
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    I just pick the length I want it to extend then lay the cord the length of the whip and tape it just above where I start the knot. Whip right over it keeping it straight as I go.
     
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    I've done two, super effective thanks!
     
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    Turned out great! I need a tomahawk..
     
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    What size bankline do you all use? I have 12 and 36. I think I'll like the looks of the 12 best, but the 36 would probably offer more protection in an overstrike.
     
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    I used the 36. It laid down real smooth for me.
     
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    20180124_144115.jpg I just did that plumb hatchet with 36. Turned out pretty nice. :)
     
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    Oh that looks good!
     
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    Thanks! I'm happy with it. I've got to find some leather to make a mask for it so it can get some time in the woods. It's much too sharp to carry without a mask. I've learned...
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    The hard way...
     
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    I did this last year on mine it has held up great. KIMG1282.jpg
     
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    I only hope that is an old wound and you didn't cut yourself with an ax from me....
     
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