As for me, I like them. Yes, I know you can get flashlights like Olight, Fenix, or Nitecore for less money, but I think LED LENSER has very good quality control. My V2 has lasted me 9 years so far and still going strong. I also just purchased a P3 AFS and was once again impressed by its solid feel and quality. So why the dislike for LED LENSER in certain forums?