Winter camouflage question

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Wich is the best overall block colour for winter camouflage?

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  1. Polar Bear Cream

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  2. Brilliant White

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  3. Pale Grey

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  1. Moondog55

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    Headed back up to ski soon and I need a new windshirt [ the Arktis is too breathable when the activity level is only moderate] and I am going to sew one up with my beloveds grudging help.
    I like the idea of being able to use this hunting as well as for skiing so I'll make the pullover in a double layer.
    So what is better for a block colour in winter, white or polar bear cream or very pale silvery grey?
    I have a few metres of Polar Bear cream and pale grey but I can go and get some white Ripstop cheaply enough
    Other layer will be Oz-Cam arid as that is the best colour combination locally and 2 layers of 100CFM fabric will be giving me the wind resistance and breathability I need at only a 120 gram weight penalty
    Also DIY will allow a kangaroo pocket which few commercial windshirts have
    So
    Polar Bear Cream ?
    OR
    Brilliant White?
    OR
    Pale Grey?
    All three can be altered easily enough with a permanent marker if a diffuse or minimal break-up pattern was needed
     
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    I've always found a light grey with green splotches (mix with the conifers) works well in forest. Or light grey with tan-ish splotches for desert. It's not perfect as pure white camo. But I've found that white camo when mixed with exertion leads to it becoming filthy pretty quickly and standing out quite a bit more than a dirtied grey.
     
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    Round here it is subdued colors like browns and tans. joe
     
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    I would go with a grey coloration. A brilliant white would be my second choice but if going with white add some kind of break up pattern, even if just a little bit. Like @Zoev brought up the white will get dingy and lose its luster pretty quickly.
     
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    hello,
    White material with green splotches AKA 'Where Eagles Dare' WWII winter pattern camouflage. I created a similar effective pattern a while ago, using a old British issue Arctic Warfare Cadre white snow suit & an old paint brush. The bristles splayed with a rubber band like a shaving brush, dabbed firstly to remove excess paint onto a rag, then when satisfied with the pattern, paint dab onto the material using matt green paint. BTW practice this before applying to the actual garment. :)
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    West German winter smock & trousers.

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  6. Primordial

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    I spend a lot of time hunting and moving around in the snow where I live. I have gravitated towards a mix of gray and white but don't count out good 'ole plain white, especially if you will be in open country. When I'm hunting brushy areas I think a snow camo with a lot of stick like patterns works well too. Try to match the environment you'll spend the most time in.

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    BTW, how are the Bulldogs doing this year?
     
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    Primordial MOA #40 Supporter Bushcraft Friend

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    I'd also like to add this tip: Watch out when you wash your snow camo. Don't use detergents that have fabric brighteners because they make the garment reflect UV light, and white snow camo reflecting UV light will look and glow purple against a snowy back drop. This is especially true in a low light situation.
     
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    I'm a Cats follower.
    Bulldogs are not doing so well but they did beat us on our last meeting.
    All commercial and old military winter patterns are far to busy for Australian snow conditions, so a plain colour should work best with just minimal additions so I'm not a hole in the background.
    The Oz-Cam fabric I have here is just a tad porous for a windshirt above the snowline so I was simply going to make a double layer for windproofing. Snow camouflage is a secondary consideration and mainly for my own fun.
    I take on board the laundry comments usually using Sportwash on my bush clothing
     
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    I have no experience with this issue (all my snow wear colours are chosen specifically to be hi-viz, for DH skiing), but I'm curious.... Wouldn't snow reflect UV intensely, making a UV reflective white/semi-white outer layer a desirable trait, when considering the application of being camouflaged from wildlife?
     
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    4673DC53-412E-4F75-BB27-15915E6B4A01.png Cheap military coverups with some spray paint.

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    Definitely go with gray if you aren’t hunting in snow.
     
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    I noticed when wearing white cotton especially, it will glow purple against the snow when washed with a fabric brightener, thus making you stand out in low light conditions. I have never encountered this problem with most synthetics or wool
     
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    I only use baking soda as a detergent and as a scent eliminator for my hunting clothes. I’ve had deer walk within 5 yards of me.
     
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    I have an old US surplus cotton overwhite top it's only a Medium size tho so a little short. But i washed it some years ago combined with some other clothing [ yes a dumb stoopid mistake I know] and it took on a pale greeny overtone that now will not wash out; and because it is 50% nylon I don't want to add any bleach to the soak and wash.
    It is heavy tho and my reason for wanting nylon is to get the weight in the pack down
     
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    Finnish camo M05 would be best.

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    It may or it might not Herman. It doesn't answer my initial question tho. Our conditions are such that our fellers mainly wear plain white trousers and our usual Oz-cam tops. I know that Australia has developed a winter Oz-Cam on a white background but I have never seen an article of gear or clothing made up in it
     

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