Working on the water, looking for a knife

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  1. Chief Brody

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    So, I’ve started a new job working on the water - on a ferry - and I've been told I need a good serrated knife. I carry a Leatherman Charge TTi, but I think I’d like a partially- or fully-serrated fixed blade to accompany it.

    Considering the Ontario Rat-3 and Gerber Big Rock. The Rat-3 may not have enough of a serrated section and I’ve heard the Gerber has a pretty crappy sheath.

    Asking for opinions on both of those and recommendations for others in the sub-$100 price range.

    Thanks-
    Steve
     
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    Mora has a new model with corked handle, serrated edge and rounded point. It was introduced at Shot Show a couple weeks ago and might still be tricky to find.
     
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    How heavy duty do you need it to be? Mora makes a cork-handled floating knife with a serrated blade, but it isn't made for hard use. If you want serrations, Spyderco and Cold Steel seem to do some of the best.

    Spyderco even makes a rust-proof knife with a fully serrated blade that is designed for use in and around saltwater. It's called the Aqua Salt, I believe.

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    Spyderco has a whole line of blades (fixed and folders) designed for use around and in water....Look for their blades with H1 steel.
     
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    Does it need to be a fixed blade. Bought a Cold Steel Code4 full serrated blade for Christmas.
    He like it a lot. Not much $$.
     
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    Cold steel double agent 2.Fits perfect to the webbing of a work vest and its cheap.
     
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    That Spyderco Aqua Salt is a bit more than I was hoping to spend but, dang - looks like a great option.

    That new Mora is pretty nice, but the fact that it floats won’t help much - if I drop something overboard, no chance I’ll be able to get it back.
     
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    No suggestions other than stainless, cheap enough to be easily replaced.
     
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    Either the Aqua Salt or the Enuff ^^^ would be the only two I'd be considering.
     
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    I used one of these for years. I cut a few seat belts to free 100_4161.JPG people but it may not be robust enough for your needs.
     
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    Reading this thread jogged my memory of something I had read at some point... apparently Victorinox serrated paring knives are used all over on commercial fishing vessels, as they are cheap and cut rope very well. So for $20 you could get a set with the knife and nylon sheath. Just throwing it out there!
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    Most of us in the kayak fishing industry use the NRS Pilot or Gerber River Shorty.
     
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    Most common on the working rivers was a steak knife shoved into the life vest.Got real serious about not modifying them years ago and dont see it anymore.Hats,eyeglasses and knives always end up in the water on the deck.
     
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    I would contact your supervisor and see what he recommends. Likely it will be superior to what we would recommend and help you fit in with the guys on your team. Don’t want to go full Rambo if they are laid back. Or vise versa.

    Fitting in with a new group can be as much about what you carry as how you present yourself.

    A knife is about what you expect to cut. Will it be small ropes or large working lines. Crab pots or mooring lines need a different knife than 20# mono. Your boss can help.

    Ask him if you need a marlin spike. A ferry may have you breaking down lashing and knots and the spike will help.
     
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    One of the captains recommended “ just a cheap serrated knife from Amazon”. But, as far as fitting in with the crews, most are gear guys. Everyone’s got a quality folder of some kind and I’ve seen a couple of fixed blades, as well.
     
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    i would definately look at the Spyderco Salt Series. i bought that Aqua Salt for surf fishing and it is pretty spectacular. one miss-step in pulling it from the sheath and i would be in stitches. it is that sharp. it is a fish zipper opener. that JumpMaster in that series is fantastic. but more expensive.

    if i worked on a ferry, there is a myriad of Spyderco "salt" folders i would be looking at. like the Native Salt. i think it is badass.

    for salt work, i think the Spyderco H1 steel is the only real solution. it cannot rust. they (bladeHQ) buried one in the salt lakes (Utah) for months and it never tarnished. and that is way saltier than the ocean.
     
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    Check out the Buck Silver creek line... the fixed bade knife is a plain blade and serrated on the back for dual purpose
     
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    +1 for the spyderco enuff
     
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    When I worked on the water- diver, not ferry crew- my surface knife was a Spyderco Endura. Most ferry crewmen I've seen on the Long Island ferrys carried either Spyderco or Myerchen knives. You certainly should check with your ferry company policy on crewman's knives. No need to go expensive. Which ferry are you working with Brother? Just curious.
    Victor
     
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    After retiring from Deep sea I worked as a fill in relief for the Maine State Ferry Service for 10 years. my self and crew always carried the above cheap serrated knives as all you will be using it for is jammed mooring lines synthetic/manila or smaller stuff such as 9 thread size heaving line material. Same knives as commercial divers use when freeing wound up lobster pot warp line on propellers and shaft. Around shipboard especially folder type serrated knives aren't quick enough to put into use when you really need it.
     
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    I worked on boats for living .
    Don't buy an expensive knife . none of them float and if it did it probably would not stand up to the tasks at hand.
    A lanyard is valuable if you end up needing to use it in the water.
    2 knives ,one for every day with a marlin spike ,cheap $5-$10$ and a 4" fixed blade with a partial serrated blade not the whole blade.
    not expensive knives .stainless steel . surgical steel is hard but is still susceptible to rust, only if your not using it .
    Chances are working a boat it won't have the opportunity to rust .
    Get small 4" cresent wrench too . lanyard it as well .
     
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    Just get a Condor Combat Machete and put your own serrations on it.
     
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    While I realize that it's been 26 years since I worked their, serrated Victorinox steak knives were the standard. Observers were issued Moras that were similar to a crappy stainless version something like a half-serrated Companion, which I hated. The Voctorinox were purchased by the case and were considered to be consumables because they would get lost, break or become completely dull by trying to saw through 2" thick metal gantry cable.

    They're sharp, light, cheap, and expendable/replacable. You will inevitably find yourself in a position where using your knife will mean destroying it. Don't put yourself in the position where you have to hesitate to consider "Do I really want to destroy this $100 knife?" Or better yet, carry one serrated and one smooth edge for different tasks. You can color code them red or black handle. You can also buy them at nicer supermarkets if you need them ASAP.


    ETA: Oh, and good luck with the new job!
     
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    @Chief Brody

    I’ve spent a good deal of time offshore. About two years as a commercial fisherman and five as an oilfield diver. We used serrated victorinox paring knives fishing and spyderco h1 folding knives as divers. I figure a rope cutting knife (Vicky) and an everything else knife (your leatherman) is a great combo. We used the spydercos in the oilfield because they absolutely will not rust and because they were folders and were less likely to get caught on things than a fixed blade with a handle sticking out. If it weren’t for that consideration I would have been perfectly happy with a victorinox. They cut rope just as well and are a heck of a lot cheaper.

    I hope you like your new job!

    @Seacapt.
    Is deep sea a diving outfit?

    @Sandcut, small world huh?
     
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    crkt WITH VEFF SERRATIONS........... sorry for the bold for some reason it wont go away sometimes
     
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    Guys, thanks for all the replies - I ended up ordering a Spyderco Pacific Salt folder. Should be arriving tomorrow and I’ll let you know how I like it.
     
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    Good choice....pics or it didnt happen
     
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    @Chief Brody Nice choice Brother! While your Spyderco will serve you well aboard ship; you still may want to consider carrying a destroyable knife. Lots of seamen use the "steak knives" for this because they work and are cheap. As a working diver, I didn't care for them because the handle is too small and skinny, especially when wearing gloves. I preferred the Dexter/Russell utility/net knife. It's inexpensive, works very well, and has a much more substantial handle. Gives you something to hang on to. You should be able to find them for less than $20 with the sheath. Mine pictured below. Good luck with the new job.
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    All of the divers I have seen cutting line out of the wheels have used steak knives as well.The fouled down lines you will net to saw off are gonna be on a steel fitting.My little brother got off the boat Thursday and just told me he lost a microtech the day before.He has been on the water 20 years and still brings nice ones out with him said if he loses them it’s just a reason to by another.
     
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    One of the things I love to see most around here is someone ask for advice on what to buy and then they follow up with posting what they decided on....Regardless of whether or not they chose something I suggested, I enjoy the whole process of it all.

    I picked up Spyderco Salt2 (basically a Delica with H1 steel) from brother @Wasp to use on my North Carolina beach trip and for summers on the lake....It ended up becoming my main edc blade around the house and the knife that I have on me while I sleep.
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    How does that plain edge hold up in H1?
     
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    I haven't sharpened it yet and I've had it since May of 2018....still cuts like a laser and has been submerged dozens and dozens of times in fresh,salt and pool water.
     
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    Spyderco Salt Series is designed around salt water activities. You can get plain or serrated blades.
    Tasman Salt 2 serrated or plain

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    Spyderco Harpy (stainless)
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    Also check out Myerchin which is made for people that work on boats. They have fixed blades and folders in plain or serrated blades. I would ask someone to make me a kydex sheath with a drain hole but they are pretty nice.
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