Buddy Burner Stove...


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didnt know if i should stick this in self made gear, or here, but since it is a stove/boiler i will stcik it here. mods please move if needed.

i desiged this stove to fit in a maxpedition rollypoly. the burner is a buddy burner and the pot is a keg can. the wind screen is made from a tomato can and has been cut down since the diameter of the can was too large to fit in the pouch. the pot sits in the wind screen and is supported by 2 stakes made from wire clothes hanger. this stove will boil 2 cups of water in around 7min.

inside the pot you will see that it holds some small survival items as this stove was part of a PSK. so the few items you see are just part of the overall PSK. along with this stove there was a plastic orange gatorade container that held the rest of the PSK items and rode on top of the packed up stove in the rolly polly. i can post more about this whole PSK setup if there is any interest.


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Nice design.

In my experience using any form of wax as fuel you need to raise the pot very high as the wax seems to take a longer time to burn as it mixes with O2. If you squash down the flame it tends to burn cold and leave lots of soot.

I can't really tell from the photos but it seems to me like it would burn hotter with either more space or more air, but I could be totally wrong on that.

I really like your burner design set up for max wax content. I have always made buddy burners with a single saturated cardboard roll. My poor design made them too short term of a proposition. Your design is a vast improvement.
 
I was thinking the same thing about the cardboard wick arrangement. I may have to try that out.
 
Pict said:
Nice design.

In my experience using any form of wax as fuel you need to raise the pot very high as the wax seems to take a longer time to burn as it mixes with O2. If you squash down the flame it tends to burn cold and leave lots of soot.

I can't really tell from the photos but it seems to me like it would burn hotter with either more space or more air, but I could be totally wrong on that.

I really like your burner design set up for max wax content. I have always made buddy burners with a single saturated cardboard roll. My poor design made them too short term of a proposition. Your design is a vast improvement.
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im using paraffin wax, and there is soot with the pot and windscreen and without. the burner burns hot, at least hot enough to boil 2 cups of water in about 7 minutes. it may burn hotter with some more room over and around the flame, but it seems to work just fine for boiling.

the use of the three rolls of cardboard is not my idea, i found it some where on the net. the overall design of the windscreen, and how it mounts to the burner is my idea. this design does allow for more wax than the old school way of filling the whole tin with one big roll of cardboard though. i recall seeing a design that just used a single X of cardboard in the tin... that would allow for even more wax, but less flame/heat.

thanks for the comment!
 
I used the conventional single cardboard roll buddy burner often back in my teen years. We even used one to heat a snow shelter and came out looking like coal miners.

There's really no way to get away from soot if you're using wax. I often use wax saturated cotton balls to cook with in Brazil. I have noticed I get better results, more heat/less soot, by giving them plenty of space below the cooking pot.

I'm really into low tech and your design has merit for sure. I used to set my buddy burner up with a second can that fit over the burner to act as a snuffer. You end up buying your canned tuna according to can size regardless if it killed a few dolphins.
 
I'm a pyromaniac and a stove-maniac, so I'll be building one of these to work with my small mors pot sometime soon.
 
I just recently used one of these on a camping trip to get a fire started. There was a freezing rain and all the wood was saturated and frozen. Even split wood from a dry tree would quickly get saturated then frozen. I tried cotton ball soaked in petroleum jelly and it didnt get the fire going. Then trioxane. it didnt work. Finnally i grabbed my buddy burner which i usually use on a quick hike away from camp for lunch/coffee, and used that to melt then boil the water from the wood and it worked great. Im never leaving home with out one again. That little stove saved my trip and may one day save my life.
 
i love my buddy burner, back in the stoneage when i was in middle school i made one from moms old candles and canning wax and a large tuna can every so often id add more wax, i carried it for years when in high school while all the othere guys were senging the eye brows and burning their dinner i sit and cook all by myself.
it made 2 1/2 year over seas with me and saved me alot of effort and heart ache. when i came home the last time one of the native guides we had always liked it so i gave it to him and my lil kettle as a parting gift.
I really like the three burner idea now my wifes goona be ticked cuz im off to melt more wax on the stove!!! lol thx for sharing btw awsome kit you made there! it brought back some fond memories
 
MtnManJoe said:
sheeesh .. I should do that too - I have done a bunch of the bushClass associated things - and other things that would directly apply, but never thought to actually do the formal thing either.:34:
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yeah i just spent a few minutes looking through the lessons and electives, and i have done a bunch of what is required for the basic coarse. i just need to post it up with some write ups i suppose. some of it i will need to do just for the basic class though since i may not have photos properly documenting the skill.
 
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