Canon Rebel EOS T3n ?s


Can't really go wrong with Canon not sure how the sound is I know a friend that has the original digital rebel thing takes gorgeous pictures.

Hell of a deal for what you are getting with that kit
 
I got a T3 a while back. We use it mostly for photos of the kids. My PC was down for a bit, so I have not done a real good review of the photos I have taken, but it is a great improvement over my pentx w90 in many cases with only the auto settings. I have not done much with the video, but the guy at the mom and pop where I bought it says I no longer need my camcorder. Thing I really like is that it is lighter than many slr's, so it is more likely to be with me. Good luck. Sorry I am not more help.
 
Not a bad package. Could spend a little more and get into the T3I.

SD card is pure crap though. You have to upgrade in something class 10 or class U1
 
SkogKniv said:
Not a bad package. Could spend a little more and get into the T3I.

SD card is pure crap though. You have to upgrade in something class 10 or class U1
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The card is trash, its more for the lens, tripod, case and others. the memory card in the kit will be used for my m530 lol.

I cant decide wether or not I can justify spending 200$ more for the t3i, on a side note I do get my discount at sears.
 
Bill Cox said:
The card is trash, its more for the lens, tripod, case and others. the memory card in the kit will be used for my m530 lol.

I cant decide wether or not I can justify spending 200$ more for the t3i, on a side note I do get my discount at sears.
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More features, 12mega to 18mega, gives you a huge range of editing options. Of course Megapixels don't mean everything.

I just got the sx40 hs. Only a point and shoot but a good one. Next big camera buy will be a T3I or whatever takes its place.
 
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I owned SLR film cameras for years and now have a DSLR. Some of the lens I "just had to have" are expensive. While the camera takes great pictures and has a lot of modes for expressing ones creativity I think if I could do it over I would go with a high end fixed lens camera. One that shoots in RAW and has a really high quality lens. The DSLR system is a lot of stuff to lug around and there are some really good fixed lens digital cameras available.

Look at the type of photography you want to do and be sure you need a DSLR. If you do, then your camera of choice is a good one although you may want a faster lens than that kit has and more distance than 300mm offers if your doing wildlife.
 
wsdstan said:
I owned SLR film cameras for years and now have a DSLR. Some of the lens I "just had to have" are expensive. While the camera takes great pictures and has a lot of modes for expressing ones creativity I think if I could do it over I would go with a high end fixed lens camera. One that shoots in RAW and has a really high quality lens. The DSLR system is a lot of stuff to lug around and there are some really good fixed lens digital cameras available.

Look at the type of photography you want to do and be sure you need a DSLR. If you do, then your camera of choice is a good one although you may want a faster lens than that kit has and more distance than 300mm offers if your doing wildlife.
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I think you are going to see the Bridge cameras take a hold of the market. I picked one up and save for a few manual controls, they can do a large portion of what the entry dslr's can. They are also shooting 1080p high bitrate video which is a nice all in one device.

I got the sx40 hs for this reason.
 
The only downside for me on the T3 is the lack of a microphone input, it would be a slam dunk if it were not for that.
 
petrifiedwood said:
I am getting to this point myself. I have a little SX130IS, and I love it but I wish it had a few more features (optical viewfinder most of all). My Rebel XS never gets taken anywhere because it's a lot to haul around. And I'm terrified of getting dust on the sensor changing lenses.

I think the ideal camera would be a fixed lens camera with a generous zoom range. It would have an optical viewfinder, hot shoe, depth of field preview button, full manual mode and take full HD video with a microphone in jack, and an HDMI out port. And let it take 4 AA batteries so you can use rechargeables or lithium cells you can find anywhere. Also it should have image stabilization, and the option for full manual focus, and the ability to attach lens accessories like caps, filters, hoods, ring lights and special effect lenses via a threaded mount on the front of the fixed lens.

I really like the DSLRs but they need to make the sensor easy to clean by housing it in some kind of extremely hard sapphire glass or something so you can just swab it clean without destroying it. But I think the way to go is with a do-it-all bridge camera and that's the way I'm leaning now as well.
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EDIT, I somehow missed a few features you were looking for when I read
 
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petrifiedwood said:
I am getting to this point myself. I have a little SX130IS, and I love it but I wish it had a few more features (optical viewfinder most of all). My Rebel XS never gets taken anywhere because it's a lot to haul around. And I'm terrified of getting dust on the sensor changing lenses.

I think the ideal camera would be a fixed lens camera with a generous zoom range. It would have an optical viewfinder, hot shoe, depth of field preview button, full manual mode and take full HD video with a microphone in jack, and an HDMI out port. And let it take 4 AA batteries so you can use rechargeables or lithium cells you can find anywhere. Also it should have image stabilization, and the option for full manual focus, and the ability to attach lens accessories like caps, filters, hoods, ring lights and special effect lenses via a threaded mount on the front of the fixed lens.

I really like the DSLRs but they need to make the sensor easy to clean by housing it in some kind of extremely hard sapphire glass or something so you can just swab it clean without destroying it. But I think the way to go is with a do-it-all bridge camera and that's the way I'm leaning now as well.
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What you want is almost here, its a bridge camera. Mine will do most of what you want. Pretty soon they will pack it all in them.

Canon is putting Integrated sensor cleaners in the cameras now, which is super smart.
 
Bill Cox said:
I cant decide wether or not I can justify spending 200$ more for the t3i, on a side note I do get my discount at sears.
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Bill, I'm only recently getting into photography myself and I don't own a Canon SLR (yet - still researching which one I will buy) so take this for what it's worth. My two cents is you will never regret spending money on a better sensor or a good lens. The sensor is the foundation of your photography with a given camera and will give you more options and capability for post-processing as well as taking fuller advantage of better lenses you acquire in the future.

If you're planning to shoot video, the T3i does full 1080p HD whereas to the best of my knowledge the T3 "only" does 720p. May or may not be a deal-breaker for you but it's always nice to have more capability I guess.
 
Easy_rider75 said:
Personally any of the sd cards I just hate them can't stand the size. Really wish they would have stuck to the compact flash cards myself
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SD has now caught up with the flash cards. I have a 64gig Class U1 SD card that transfers at 95mbps. Almost overkill lol.
 
I think the T2I might be a good choice for what im looking for, hd video, mic input, 18mp and at a price I can live with.
 
petrifiedwood said:
My Rebel XS has a sensor cleaning mode that activates automatically on shutdown. But all it is, is an ultrasonic vibrator that tries to "shake" dust off the sensor. The problem is there are sticky contaminants like microscopic particles of lubricant from the mirror mechanism that can build up over time and the built in shakers don't remove the goop.
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Yeah, but routine cleaning with the proper tools can stave any problems. Having it annually serviced is always a good thing to of course.
 
Bill Cox said:
I think the T2I might be a good choice for what im looking for, hd video, mic input, 18mp and at a price I can live with.
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I know you youtube, keep in mind that t2i and t3i...etc, are all auto focus in movie mode, but not continuous auto focus. It is the deal breaker right now for me, since I make videos on my own, and getting out in front of the camera means I need something to keep focus for me. The Nikon have it available though. Canon will catch up I am sure.
 
Bill Cox said:
I think the T2I might be a good choice for what im looking for, hd video, mic input, 18mp and at a price I can live with.
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The T2I is hands down the better body. For a consumer level DSLR they are excellent. We just had a buddy pick one up and he's very happy with it. If you look around you should still be able find them as a kit with two lenses.

Jon.
 
SkogKniv said:
I know you youtube, keep in mind that t2i and t3i...etc, are all auto focus in movie mode, but not continuous auto focus. It is the deal breaker right now for me, since I make videos on my own, and getting out in front of the camera means I need something to keep focus for me. The Nikon have it available though. Canon will catch up I am sure.
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Skog which nikons have continuous auto focus? maybe my search fu is weak this evening.

Thanks Bill
 
Thanks for moving the thread, I completely forgot about the electronics section.
 
For now the CAF is not a must, to far out of my price range. Its still between the T3 and T2I. Im leaning toward the T2I at this point, it has a better monitor and its better for video. I have till the end of the month to flip flop and decide lol.
 
SkogKniv said:
I know you youtube, keep in mind that t2i and t3i...etc, are all auto focus in movie mode, but not continuous auto focus. It is the deal breaker right now for me, since I make videos on my own, and getting out in front of the camera means I need something to keep focus for me. The Nikon have it available though. Canon will catch up I am sure.
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One way to get around that is to use a wider lens, with a deeper field of focus. You'll need to set the camera closer.

The continuous auto focus, even on the Nikon, still isn't quite there in video mode yet. It works, but haltingly.
 
Bill Cox said:
Im in the market for a good camera and have settled on getting the Canon Rebel EOS T3. My questions are does anyone use one on here, and how is the sound quality in the video? Any thoughts in general on it are welcome.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004VN920G/?tag=bcusa-20

Thanks Bill
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Sound quality is good, but fwiw, on board sound with a condenser mic will alway have inherent flaws such as wind noise, lens noise, and a limited range.
An external mic will always be "better", but you will still be limited by working with on board audio code.

The "best" option is to use an external audio recorder, and then to sync the audio and video when editing, but for most people this is a huge extra step in both workload and cash outlay.
 
One other note: by my way of thinking, way too much is made of "which camera". Most cameras are good enough. Real improvements are few and far between. Exceptions are in video mode, as SkogKniv mentioned, which is a big one for anyone wanting to make what we used to call "broadcast" quality video, where 1080p/30fps is a big upgrade. Another is low light focusing, in which the newest generation of cams beat the 2 year old cams by a long way. But within a year or two, all technology tends to trickle down to newer, entry level cameras.

The biggest difference between most entry level and prosumer cams is in the number of external buttons. Think "The machine that goes BING".

It is always better in the long run to spend your money on a better lens, than on a better body. Most bodies last a few years, some longer, depending on how you take care of them and how much and where you use them. These aren't film cams, where the 35mm standard will last for decades. These current cams may well be obsolete in ten years. Anyone remember Hi8? How about ZIP drives, and floppies? Lens systems, on the other hand, tend to be backward compatible. Nikon lenses from 50 years ago still work on new cameras.

The point is, get what you like. There's always something "better", which costs more, but it won't take a good picture for you... that part is up to you, regardless of your gear. A good photographer with a toy camera will still take a better picture, every time, than a rube with a deluxe pro setup and action vest.
 
Bill Cox said:
Skog which nikons have continuous auto focus? maybe my search fu is weak this evening.

Thanks Bill
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The d5100 and upper models. I am not sure on the 3100.

Like Brionic said above, its not perfect, however it isn't bad either.
 
Skog, can you use a wireless remote with your sx40? After looking at it I might just hold off on a more highend camera till I decide exactly what I want.

Thanks Bill
 
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