My gear for a 2 night trip

Chert

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Me and a couple forum members are going on a 2 night backpacking trip this Friday, and I am more than excited for it. I've revamped, reorganized, and brought down some weight of my gear over the past few trips. I want to start taking pictures and comparing my load out for each trip so I'm starting now. I'm open to any and all questions/criticisms/comments, thanks for looking.

Total weight including 1 nalgene + 1 16oz bottle of water is 29 pounds.

Here is the trip report using this gear - http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57610

Clothing: Wicking top and bottom base layer, sweat pants to sleep in, fleece top, large warm sweater, gloves, hat, balaclava, shemagh, 2 pairs wool socks plus what I wear in, it is supposed to get pretty cold.

PSK/Possible bag/night kit/toiletry bag (whatever you want to call it). I was keeping everything in different compartments and in different pouches and stuff, but I find having all of this stuff in one place saves weight over multiple containers and it's all stuff I don't have to access multiple times in the day, this system works for me.

Contents:
  • Toothbrush/toothpaste
  • Small powerful flashlight with replacement AAA battery
  • Ear plugs (I can't sleep outdoors without them)
  • Wet wipes (I am ridiculously allergic to poison oak, I use these for a wipe down on my exposed areas before bed to help mitigate any poison oak damage I may have if I came in contact with it)
  • PSK
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PSK Contents:
  • Fresnel Lens
  • Breastmilk bag
  • Big trash bag
  • Duct tape
  • Rope
  • Water purification tabs
  • Whistle
  • Bobbin w/ heavy thread
  • Compass
  • Fishing kit
  • Firesteel
  • Small saw and a small blade with repair needle taped to it
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Everything fits into a small stuff sack and doesn't weigh too much. 220 grams.
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Tools/First Aid:
  • My First Aid Kit
  • Mora
  • SAK Farmer
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Cook kit, this has been changed multiple times to get to this point but I think I have it dialed in to exactly what I need and what weight I am willing to carry. 442 grams.
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Cook kit contents:
  • Snow Peak Kettle
  • Plastic Tupperware bowl that fits absolutely perfect inside the kettle (I got this bowl at the dollar store)
  • Small squishy bowl
  • Spice kit
  • Bandana
  • Bottom of a soup can lid with holes (for boil baking)
  • Another breast milk bag for water holding
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The squishy bowl is a new addition to my kit, but it will go with me every time now. It is the perfect size for oatmeal in the morning or for coffee, and works great to boil bake. For baking I put the soup can bottom in the kettle, fill with water just under the top of the can, then put my squishy bowl on top of that with my muffin mix. After about 30 minutes over the fire, making sure you have enough water for boiling, you come out with a great muffin.
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I also keep a titanium nesting cup with lid under my Nalgene, doesn't weigh much and gives me one extra cook pot or cup.
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Food, I probably have too much but I like to eat. This is one of my heaviest items, 1475 grams.

Food contents: not shown is a few snacks I keep floating around in my pockets or backpack.
  • Breakfast pack with pop tarts, oatmeal, and wetwipes (I keep these in every food pack)
  • Drink mixes for lunches and some more wetwipes
  • night time drink mixes - hot chocolates and tea
  • A rice packet
  • A few things of top ramen
  • Mountain house beef stew (this is my emergency food, goes with me on every trip)
  • Lastly is a pack of beef jerky (I add this to my ramen and rice).
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Shelter Contents:
  • A reusable space blanket
  • An Etowah 10x10 tarp with a piece of Tyvek for a extra wall or ground cloth(1.1 pounds)
  • A bag with some rope
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The Tyvek goes in the stuff sack with the tarp. I keep a trash bag in the rope kit so I can set my shelter items on it, if it's wet out or raining.
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Sleep Stuff, a Thermarest z-lite (this is a new purchase, trying to cut down weight over my self inflating pad - 10 ounces), a 35 degree bag (3.1 pounds), and a small fleece blanket I use to cover any parts during the night that get cold - usually my shoulder area or feet.
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Firekit, I have redone my firekit more times than anything else in my bag, once I pulled out my scale I saw some problems though. I was using a Hudson Bay tin in a leather case with flint and steel strikers and stuff in it, well that made the kit close to half a pound, so this is my lightweight kit for backpacking it weighs less than just the Hudson Bay tin I used to bring, 46 grams.
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Contents:
  • Fat wood
  • Small trick re-lighting candle
  • Firesteel
  • Baggie with PJ CB's
  • Small piece of innertube.
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Everything loaded up and on the trail, I'm on the right, the bag is an Osprey Kestrel 58.

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Thanks for looking.
 
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Great photos and nice lists to go with them. How much does the shelter and sleep gear weigh? Every time I try to pare down my pack weight, it comes down to heavy sleep stuff that I am not willing to leave behind!
 
Looks like you've given this some thought, nice going chert. Those Thermarest z-lite are light and comfortable, bought my daughter one a while back and she loved it.
 
Very well thought out Chert...I need to be more sensitive to my pack weights. Thanks for the pointers.
 
Great photos and nice lists to go with them. How much does the shelter and sleep gear weigh? Every time I try to pare down my pack weight, it comes down to heavy sleep stuff that I am not willing to leave behind!

Thanks bro. I didn't get a chance to weigh it last night, I know the tarp is just over 1 pound on its own, the rest is all really light stuff, I'd say under 2 pounds for the shelter stuff total. The sleeping bag is just over 3 pounds, the fleece blanket is light and the thermarest is 10 ounces, I'd say under 6 pounds for all of the shelter/sleeping stuff easily. My first loadout was well over 40 pounds, maybe even 50, it's been a steady journey of dropping gear and switching out stuff for lighter things since.
 
Very well thought out Chert...I need to be more sensitive to my pack weights. Thanks for the pointers.

Thanks. I picked up this scale for under $20 at Target, it is addicting though seeing how much weight you can drop I've pretty much spent this entire week after work doing so and I can really tell a difference when carrying it, I didn't think little things like pouches and tins would add so much extra weight.
 
Hey buddy I have a suggestion. Learn to sleep without ear plugs. Its good to have all sences operating.

While I agree it is optimal to have all of my senses open and ready to go, I just get horrible nights sleep without them. If I were backpacking alone I would probably not use them, but I will be with two others so I am not overly concerned about not hearing through the night. I use them every trip and haven't run into any problems, thanks for the suggestion though.
 
I don't know anything about grams (or much about ounce counting for that matter! lol)
but I know it's awesome you are getting hooked on "the going!" :D

take lots of pics, and you guys enjoy the weekend!
 
I don't know anything about grams (or much about ounce counting for that matter! lol)
but I know it's awesome you are getting hooked on "the going!" :D

take lots of pics, and you guys enjoy the weekend!

Lol thanks bro, I've only just recently gotten into this gear weight thing, I just think of it as the lighter I get my baseweight stuff the more willing I'm going to be to carry it in the bush.
 
Good stuff Chert... I always go back and forth on pack lists. I own a bunch of UL gear but I tend to take a mix of UL gear and heavy weight stuff like an axe or whatever. Then I go on a hike-in trip and half way through it I feel like jettisoning my pack and sleeping in the dirt instead :p

What always seems to get me is *volume* of gear moreso than the weight. The reality is that bushcraft skills don't really "replace" much gear for me; I make stakes on site from wood and use fires instead of a stove but I still need a sleeping bag, pad, shelter, and clothes which take up a lot of cubic inches even though they're relatively light.
 
Good stuff Chert... I always go back and forth on pack lists. I own a bunch of UL gear but I tend to take a mix of UL gear and heavy weight stuff like an axe or whatever. Then I go on a hike-in trip and half way through it I feel like jettisoning my pack and sleeping in the dirt instead :p

What always seems to get me is *volume* of gear moreso than the weight. The reality is that bushcraft skills don't really "replace" much gear for me; I make stakes on site from wood and use fires instead of a stove but I still need a sleeping bag, pad, shelter, and clothes which take up a lot of cubic inches even though they're relatively light.

Bingo on the bolded part, lol. I use a fairly large pack, an Osprey Kestrel 58, which is large enough to hold the gear that I stuff in it so the volume isn't a huge concern for me when I use it. I do want to build up a light weight 1 nighter summer kit for my LL Bean continental rucksack, I think that will be the volume game for me. Yeah, knowledge can only replace so much gear.
 
Lol thanks bro, I've only just recently gotten into this gear weight thing, I just think of it as the lighter I get my baseweight stuff the more willing I'm going to be to carry it in the bush.

good stuff, 100%.

To me...whatever a person likes the best - whatever gets them "out there" - that's the magic! :57:
 
Wow you werent kidding when you said you got a scale and were weighting everything.

You might be developing a problem though. There are support groups.

www.scale-oholicsanonymous.com



lol.
But nice. Looks good. Cant wait!

Hahaha yeah bro, I went through everything, and I'm not proud to admit this but I actually considered cutting off all my excess straps and cord pulls and stuff to shave weight...... Yeah I can't wait either, I feel like a kid waiting for the bell to ring for recess.
 
btw, any idea on how much weight you cut total.?

I didn't get good pre-weight loss weigh ins, so I can't say for sure. I'd say maybe 8 pounds or so, I haven't gotten my clothes packed up yet so once thats done I can do a final weigh in. It is noticably lighter though when wearing it, not as bulky either now that I don't have a tent and big sleeping pad strapped to the outside.
 
I'm not proud to admit this but I actually considered cutting off all my excess straps and cord pulls and stuff to shave weight.....

Ive actually considered that too. :rolleyes: I never use the chest strap at all on any of my bags. But it probably only weighs like a gram.
 
Thx for the post! I love looking at people's load-outs. I dunno why. It's a sickness I guess. :-/

So, what IS your total packweight with this gear?

I would suggest including an emergency food item in your PSK. I like chia seeds - very lightweight, compact and nutritious.

I would also propose that you find a way to carry the PSK on your person somehow, separately from your pack - maybe in a small compass pouch that will fit in a cargo pocket of your pants. I started doing this and it gives me a little sense of security, like, say I stop for a trail break and wander away from my pack to investigate something. In the unlikely event that I get lost or injured, I have more than just a pocketknife on my person.

A related proposal is to find a way to carry your Nalgene and nesting cup when away from camp. Like, say you want to explore the forest around your camp, or maybe go fishing at that lake over the next ridge. You will want your PSK and a water supply. Idea: A Nalgene fits nicely in a GI canteen cover (to which you can attach a shoulder strap) with room left over inside for your PSK.

I would also suggest you look at your menu. Frankly, that does NOT look like a lot of food for a 2 nighter. And again (just my opinion) Top Ramen is not good backpacking food. It is bulky and doesn't offer much nutrition. I like dehydrated potatoes; they cook faster, provide lots of carbohydrates (=energy) and are very light and compact. They also work great with any seasonings, veggies, jerky you want to add. Other people like quinoa, but it takes longer to cook and is just not "yummy" in my opinion.
 
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Great loadout, Chert. Thanks for all the great details and images.

I like the look of that Snow Peak kettle. How's that been working for you?
 
Another thought is that your first-aid kit looks kinda big. I bet you could pare that down some. I carried a really large first-aid kit for a lot of backpacking trips, and then realized I could slim it down a lot by including more stuff that is multipurpose.

I like your cook kit a lot. Your other posts have me wanting to try some of that muffin baking!

Speaking of which, are you packing any kind of stove, or do you plan to cook over fire all the time?
 
Thx for the post! I love looking at people's load-outs. I dunno why. It's a sickness I guess. :-/

So, what IS your total packweight with this gear?

I would suggest including an emergency food item in your PSK. I like chia seeds - very lightweight, compact and nutritious.

I would also propose that you find a way to carry the PSK on your person somehow, separately from your pack - maybe in a small compass pouch that will fit in a cargo pocket of your pants. I started doing this and it gives me a little sense of security, like, say I stop for a trail break and wander away from my pack to investigate something. In the unlikely event that I get lost or injured, I have more than just a pocketknife on my person.

A related proposal is to find a way to carry your Nalgene and nesting cup when away from camp. Like, say you want to explore the forest around your camp, or maybe go fishing at that lake over the next ridge. You will want your PSK and a water supply. Idea: A Nalgene fits nicely in a GI canteen cover (to which you can attach a shoulder strap) with room left over inside for your PSK.

I would also suggest you look at your menu. Frankly, that does NOT look like a lot of food for a 2 nighter. And again (just my opinion) Top Ramen is not good backpacking food. It is bulky and doesn't offer much nutrition. I like dehydrated potatoes; they cook faster, provide lots of carbohydrates (=energy) and are very light and compact. They also work great with any seasonings, veggies, jerky you want to add. Other people like quinoa, but it takes longer to cook and is just not "yummy" in my opinion.

I like looking at what other people carry too, glad I could help in the sickness lol. I haven't fully packed it out yet, I have to gather my clothes up tonight so I can't say the total weight just yet, I'll update the first post with it when I find out though.

I like the idea of having my PSK on my persons and stocked with some food, chia seeds are super light so I may just pack it with some of those.

I am actually in the process of trying to figure out a lightweight way to carry my waterbottle in a more easily accessible spot when hiking, I'm leaning towards a shoulder sling style, like a Maxpedition 10x4, but way lighter. I think that will be perfect and give me the space to have some stuff on me when I leave my bag somewhere.

For food I laid it out like this -

Arrival (we plan on arriving around 4:30pm, hopefully after eating lunch already) - Dinner night 1 - rice w/ jerky and a hot chocolate

Breakfast day 2 - oatmeal, poptart, coffee

Lunch day 2 - top ramen with jerky and a drink mix

Dinner night 2 - top ramen with jerky, hot chocolate

Depature - breakfast day 3 - oatmeal, poptart, coffee

Lunch day 3 - top ramen with jerky, drink mix (may or may not need to eat lunch on the second day, depending on the time it takes to hike out)

I think of the above as "base meals", something that I will have no matter what to eat for each meal, to those I will add a few handfuls of trailmix, or a granola bar to make me a little more full if needed. This gives some extra oatmeals and pop tarts to cover any "hunger pains" I also have that mountain house if I need it too. I like top ramen, I attribute it more as a super light comfort food than a nutritious meal, and on a few night trip it works for me. I will add in a pack of mashed taters though, I've actually never had them but I have a few packets of them laying around the house.

I appreciate the feedback bro, you bring up some good points.
 
Another thought is that your first-aid kit looks kinda big. I bet you could pare that down some. I carried a really large first-aid kit for a lot of backpacking trips, and then realized I could slim it down a lot by including more stuff that is multipurpose.

I like your cook kit a lot. Your other posts have me wanting to try some of that muffin baking!

Speaking of which, are you packing any kind of stove, or do you plan to cook over fire all the time?

I have a few "luxury" items in the FAK, a few cough drops, hand sanitizer spray and a decent sized wrap (sometimes my ankle acts up and I need this), it actually doesn't weigh too much at all, it might just be the size of the pouch that makes it look bulkier than it is, I do want to replace with multipurpose stuff eventually though, more for ease of use than for weight though.

Baking is great, really adds some wonderful food to the trip this way. I don't plan on bringing any type of stove this trip, the past 3-4 trips I went on I brought one and never used it, so this trip it is fire cooking only for me.
 
Great loadout, Chert. Thanks for all the great details and images.

I like the look of that Snow Peak kettle. How's that been working for you?

Thanks bro, glad you enjoyed it. I love the kettle, I got it just to test out but it quickly replaced all of my other cooking gear. It's heavy and durable enough that I don't worry about it being damaged in the fire, but light enough to backpack with, holds enough water to cook ramen, make a drink with and have enough water left over for clean up. I can't praise it enough, truly a great piece of kit.
 
I am actually in the process of trying to figure out a lightweight way to carry my waterbottle in a more easily accessible spot when hiking, I'm leaning towards a shoulder sling style, like a Maxpedition 10x4, but way lighter. I think that will be perfect and give me the space to have some stuff on me when I leave my bag somewhere.

My kit is shaping up much like yours, Chert, and, consequently, I've looked at the same concerns about carrying the Nalgene bottle outside the main pack.

I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I've been seriously looking at a French Army gas mask bag over at Omaha's surplus. It measures 12x5 (much like the Maxpedition bottle holders) but it also has two outside pockets, is made of canvas, comes with a shoulder strap and belt mount and, best of all, is only $9.95. :4:

Might be worth considering if you're good with surplus gear.
 
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