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I have a nephew that wants to go with me on a couple overnighters which is fine with me and his mom but here is the catch he just had to have allergy test and we found out he has severe reactions to almost all trees and mold and grasses and nuts. So my question to you guys and gals is is there anything I can do to take him or are we gonna just have to pitch a tent in his back yard and bring his epi-pen. Any advise and help would be great. Thanks.
 
Sounds like a bummer. How is "severe reaction" defined?
 
How old is your nephew?

Maybe you could get him camping near a lake or river where the tree and grass population is lower..

Good luck
 
Maybe winter camping? Dramatically lower allergen exposure if everything is frozen and not pollenating etc. but I don't know if that's an option.

I would advise checking with the allergy doctor who can provide more detailed advice based on his specific case. It may be possible to manage the allergies with good antihistamines (over the counter or prescription like Singulair) and/or an inhaler.
 
Try picking days when the air quality is good and pollen is low. His allergies sound pretty severe. Its unfortunate but I wouldn't trek too far in someplace that would be hard to evacuate him to safety. Try the backyard if that works try a campground. Take precautions like having an extra spare epipen.
 
I would suggest allergy desensitization shots administerd by a DR. There is also a non invasive allergy treatment not involving shots, I don't remember what it is called but it seems to work very well. My adopted grandson has been taking the treatments and done very well. I will find out what this form of treatment is and let you know. Maybe there is someone in your area that provides these treatments. It is more of a holostic type treatment but it works. I'll get back to you.
 
I would suggest allergy desensitization shots administerd by a DR. There is also a non invasive allergy treatment not involving shots, I don't remember what it is called but it seems to work very well. My adopted grandson has been taking the treatments and done very well. I will find out what this form of treatment is and let you know. Maybe there is someone in your area that provides these treatments. It is more of a holostic type treatment but it works. I'll get back to you.

My wife gets allergy shots and they do make a lot of difference with her allergies, including some nasty grass and pollen reactions.

Not sure but you might be thinking of sub-lingual treatments (under the tongue)? I know that's one of the treatments they've tested rather than under the skin injections.
 
maybe start with only taking him out forr a few hours first and see how he does.... I would bring benadryl a inhaler and anti itch cream for hives with you just in case .... and get him to the doctor first in case he needs a shot or some kind if treatment. oh yeah if he has asthma a fire may be a bad Idea.... the smoke can trigger an asthma attack
 
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My wife gets allergy shots and they do make a lot of difference with her allergies, including some nasty grass and pollen reactions.

Not sure but you might be thinking of sub-lingual treatments (under the tongue)? I know that's one of the treatments they've tested rather than under the skin injections.

This is going to sound very much like hokus pokus but the treatment is a combination of some form of chiropractic and believe is or not holding a glass vial of concentrated allergen in you hand for a set amount of time. I don't know how or why it works but it cured my wife of several allergies and has helped my adopted grandson. At first I thought it was a lot of mumbo jumbo but having seen the results I guess I believe now. I will get the name of the treatment and pass it on.
 
The process is called "Elimination therapy", like I said in a previous post it looks and sounds like a bunch of hocus pocus but I guess as they say the proof is in the pudding. It works and is none invasive which may be less traumatizing than shots to a youngun. I don't know how wide spread the practice is and if you can find someone in your area but it might be worth the effort if it helps and improves his quality of life.
 
Maybe winter camping? Dramatically lower allergen exposure if everything is frozen and not pollenating etc. but I don't know if that's an option.

I would advise checking with the allergy doctor who can provide more detailed advice based on his specific case. It may be possible to manage the allergies with good antihistamines (over the counter or prescription like Singulair) and/or an inhaler.

Jloden has pretty much hit the nail on the head here. As someone who suffers from allergy attacks I take one of the once a day over the counter meds and I keep Sudafed on hand for more severe attacks. I really should get an epi pen from the doc one of these days as the more severe attacks almost completely closes off my airway. Talk with the doc about getting the boy on some regular meds and then take something that will work in an emergency.
 
There are several posts on here about using local to your area honey to aid in allergy relief. Here's just one
http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-45705.html

I got at least 10 posts/thread search hits by opening another browser, then typing

allergies and honey site:bushcraftusa(dot)com

You can pull them up and read them individually, very good info. The key is that it has to be local honey to your area.

I'm NOT a doctor...
 
If you are talking overnight trips, you better see if he has any reactions to the sleeping bag and tent that you use.

I also would be careful about using any medical advise I read on the internet, especially for a child and most especially from people with no expertise.
 
We have a scout with these exact issues.

He does just fine, and here is how.

Asthma
1. He has limit to just how much physical exersion he can do in a given time period. When he hits that point he stops and rests.
2. He always has his inhaler
3. The ASM medic always has a backup inhaler
4. The Senior scouts and leaders have all been taught what to look for, and how to treat him should he have an attack.
5. He always brings along a battery operated Nebulizer and can self adminster or ASM assisted a breathing treatment.

Allergies.
1. Stay on trails as much as possible when moving about.
2. Sets his tent and camping area as far from what he is most allergic to in the area.
3. Pants all year (Hell in the Texas summer)
4. Long sleves anytime they go out an about.
5. Alergy pill on schedule like clockwork.


This has been a trial and error development over the past couple of years with him, and we pretty much have it down to a science.

Best advise start him out slow, with a couple of day outings. An hour or two at first. Monitor him as he goes allong, and pull the plug at the first sign of trouble. then move up from there till you reach his current limitation.
 
Pretty much what everybody else said. Start eating local honeys, Dr. rx allergy shot regimen, and you might try going out after rains, as those will normally clear out the air of most allergens.
 
Check out a natural product said to work great called D-Hist. You can get it from Amazon.com. Also, it is too complicated to explain here, but if you prefer natural treatments you might want to check out homeopathy. I made a homemade homeopathic remedy for my house dust allergy and it cured me of a life long chronic plugged nose that had plagued me for 40 some years. You would need to collect local pollens from a pond, lake or puddle during pollen season and use that to make the remedy. I talked to a lady who had great results doing this and several customers would come back to her year after year to get refortified for the new allergy season.
 

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