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Hey all, I've been thinking over buying a Guyot/Nalgene steel bottle for a day or so. You guys know how gearlust sets in, right? I like the idea of a durable waterbottle that I can just throw in the fire for purification and cooking, but I wonder why the guyot version is so popular at around $30 when there are cheaper versions all over hardware stores, etc.?
I have two cheap steel bottles that people have given me as gifts, and just boiled water in both of them on my kitchen stove. They seem to work just fine, and I wonder what I'm missing. Is there some other reason these are so popular? I know they nest well with a GSI cup, but I don't have one of those, so not a factor.
What's the deal with this thing? Honestly not a slam on any owners, seriously just want to know what I'm missing.
 
floatch said:
They seem to work just fine, and I wonder what I'm missing. Is there some other reason these are so popular? I know they nest well with a GSI cup, but I don't have one of those, so not a factor.
What's the deal with this thing? Honestly not a slam on any owners, seriously just want to know what I'm missing.
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As you mentioned, they nest with a GSI cup. They have a standard Nalgene threaded opening, so they fit MANY filter attachments. The wide mouth makes eating from it easy compared to many bottles. The removable cap makes using it in the fire easy. Nalgene has a great reputation for customer support. They are bomb proof.

Ultimately, people buy what they want, because it suits them. You may never understand why others have different buying habits than you do, as you may never understand a myriad of differences between the ways you and others think and make decisions. That's what makes others so interesting.

Good luck with whatever purchase you end up making. I hope you find it suits your needs in every way.

Take care,
Malcolm
 
there are several water filters on the market that will directly attack to the guyot.
you can use all of the fancy nalgene wide mouth lids
it doesn't have a seam at the bottom that can leak after a few "fire cycles" like some of the $5 bottles.
38 oz capacity -- compared to the 27 ounces of many of the $5 bottles.

mostly it comes down to personal preference. I don't have a Guyot (or Kleen Kanteen) wide mouth bottle either --- yet.
 
The Guyot Nalgene steel bottles have been tested in comparison with Kleen Kanteen steel bottles ... and they've proven to be more durable, robust and thicker-walled. Characteristics as such are important when considering all the banging around that these bottles get while being hauled around and manipulated out in the bush.

To many folk who bushcraft, those improved qualities are worth the higher price. But to each their own.

I have both the Guyot Nalgene and Kleen Kanteen. Both are fine bottles and both work well for EDC in most non-bush activities. For bushcrafting though, I feel the Guyot Nalgene is more reliable and outperforms the KK.
 
I have two and love them. I chose them over any other for a couple of reasons as they are steel and not aluminum, they have no plastic or rubber on the mouth, they are wide at the bottom so they are more stable on the ground, wide mouth makes it easier for cleaning, and you can fit the gsi cup on both ends without taking any additional room. The last point is what made me choose it over any others that fit in the same bill.
 
Thanks everyone, exactly what I hoped for: an excellent summation of the whys and hows for many of you and your choices. I appreciate everyone's responses, more information is always good!
 
Much thicker wall than most other bottles. Works with other Nalgene setups. I all ready was using Nalgene bottles. Just a simple upgrade.
 
hi. there is a excellent review on the guyot/gsi cup setup if you go to the gear reviews section on the forum page. from my experience it is an excellent combination. they are also multi purpose items. i have both the 32oz and the 38oz. i use the 38oz the most. i have been very happy with the guyot/ gsi combo ever sence i bought them. hope this helps.
 
I wish they had them in the BCO store. Where's the cheapest place to get one?

OK I guess the Nalgene is the same, just found it for 26.99 shipped from nalgene.
 
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And good luck with that. Been trying to get a couple of them for nearly a year without breaking the bank. They always seemed to be on backorder. They've got some different ones in stock, the "Filter For Good" bottles with the Brita label, but not sure if those are the same ones as the original Guyot Nalgenes.

Finally ended up getting a couple of the 1 L Glacier Stainless Dukjug bottles (link) from my family for Christmas.

MANIMAL said:
the ONLY place to get one is direct from nalgene
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MANIMAL said:
the ONLY place to get one is direct from nalgene
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Unless they stopped carrying them I got mine from meanie's Sporting, The Canteen Shop and several other on line outfitting stores offer them as well, and the prices are all about the same give or take a few bucks.
 
The Canteen Shop is out of stock on the Guyot SS bottles as well; have been for a while.
 
Nalgene supposedly has them now, I just ordered one.

It is the one with the Brita label but from what I can tell it's the same thing.
 
Another thing to look for is that some metal water bottles (including various models of the Klean Kanteen) have a lined interior. This can cause a problem when heating as you may break down the liner and release the chemicals from the lining into your water. To the best of my knowledge, the Guyot designed Nalgene's don't have that lining.
 
Don't underestimate the 'herd' factor either. They do seem nice though.

Doin' fine with my Target or WallyWorld ones I got at the local GW for $2 each. 18oz for dayhikes n pair of 27oz for extended hikes. Main thing is single wall stainless IMHO. Taller n more narrow than Guyot, but my cooking is in other pots n cups. The SS bottles for me are quick boil for tea or Ramens and as a backup in case the "Sometimers" kicks in.
 
Panzer said:
I have one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000B9G838/?tag=bcusa-20

I have not fire tested it yet. I got mine at a yard sale for 25 cents. Seems pretty heavy duty.
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You certainly can't go wrong with that deal, I've tested several different bottles over the last year or so, funny thing is I don't usually boil water in one, I use my GI canteen cup or small stew type pot for cooking or heating water, I just like having the option and I like trying new gear.
I've tested the Gyotte design, Kleen Canteen, and a cheap Wallyworld SS water bottle, all three worked out fine, I'm told that the cheap Chinese bottles tend to leak after several trips into the fire, but I haven't had that happen with mine, the Kleen Canteen is a real step up from the Walmart bottle, it's thicker and seamless (so i'm told), the Gyotte Design is the best of the lot as far as wall thickness, and well worth the money they get for them, but both are of high enough quality to not make much difference which one you buy, personally I like the Gyotte Design most because of the wider mouth and the nesting option of most of the more popular SS folding handle cups.
I've also found that in most cases SS bottles that sell for $15.00 or more are just as good as the KC or GD bottles as far as performance and quality, those selling for less are generally of lessor quality, but will generally perform just as well, they just don't hold up as well to hard use.
 
Ive had mine goin on at least 4 years now. I have one of the Originals before they were bought by Nalgene. I love it. Its been to hell and back, baptised in flames, dropped, frozen, and is still kicking along just fine despite the dented in bottom, and dented neck. I remove the lanyard cord that holds the lid on mine. I have a new unused one in reserve, but I just cant bring myself to retire the old one. lol
 
J said:
Ive had mine goin on at least 4 years now. I have one of the Originals before they were bought by Nalgene. I love it. Its been to hell and back, baptised in flames, dropped, frozen, and is still kicking along just fine despite the dented in bottom, and dented neck. I remove the lanyard cord that holds the lid on mine. I have a new unused one in reserve, but I just cant bring myself to retire the old one. lol
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Plus, if you use the new one, you lose all trail cred and can't possibly know what you're doing because you have new equipment! :32:
 
I'll toss in my experience and preference when it comes to this bottle, for whatever its worth. Personally I don't really use mine, it's a great bottle, but for my uses it just doesn't work... Here are a few reasons why I don't really use them:

--I think it is way too heavy, I know this will mean the bottle will last a lifetime, but that also means I have to carry a heavy water bottle all day long. Lifetime lasting gear doesn't mean much when your bag is so heavy you don't want to get off the couch to lug it around in the woods. If I am going to carry a stainless steel item with me, its going to have to do more than just hold and boil water.

--When using a pump style filter you can't see how much water you are pumping into your bottle, while this may not be a huge deal, it is something to think about, this was a real problem for me when I went backpacking last year, not so much a problem if you boil your water but if you pump its an issue.

--I'm not a fan of using my water bottle to purify, I don't like sooty water bottles because my water bottle gets used a crap ton on the trail and is taken out/put back into my water bottle holder. My whole backpack would be black with soot if I used my water bottle to boil in the fire.

I prefer a plastic bottle (much lighter) and a nesting titanium cup, or plastic bottle and cook kit to cover my boiling needs. I can see the merit in using the SS water bottle, it would be a great item for a day hike or basecamp item, but for me I can't justify carrying the extra weight of it on any sort of trip where walking in more than a mile or two was required, I'd rather use that extra weight added to my cook kit, food..etc. Just my two cents on them.
 
Good point, I never quite understood why one would want to be able to boil in their water bottle AND ALSO carry a nesting cup or pot. I can see if it's the only such item you are carrying.

I also don't see cooking in one. Even the big mouth bottles are a real pain in the rear to clean food out of (unless it's a stew or something). I prefer to have nothing but water in my bottles/canteens, but maybe that's just me.
 
I use my Guyot in colder months so that if I have a problem with freezing I can just set it over the fire or on coals. Plus I love it for melting snow way more capacity than my nesting cup. Don't cook in it but then I usually carry "just add hot water" food items.

I carry a nesting cup as well, but use that to drink hot drinks or soup, etc...
 
+1 on what dayhiker said.

My guyot bottle is used to boil water and drink water from. (After it has cooled down first. :58: )

My nesting cup is for other drinks such as coffee, tea, or hot chocolate, and outmeal if I don't use the pouch it came in.

Food goes into the trangia cookset.
 
I appreciate the info that the Guyot is thicker than the Kleen Kanteen Wide.
eventually the Brita Logo will wear off, right? :)
 
Stanley makes a comparable bottle at like half the cost, not same lid threads though if you want a screw on filter to work. I own a guyot and some kleen kanteens as well, but I got mine on closeout for 9 bucks few years ago, it's a great bottle. I don't heat in my bottles but like the option should I need to. I gotta agree on liking a clear bottle if treating water....
 
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