Ran across a little buddy today


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On a lunchtime hike. Didn't excpect to see any snakes out whehn it's below 40 degrees.

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I think it's a brown snake but the head looks to triangular.
 
Ahhh! Warn me next time! I am deathly terrified of snakes! I almost peed myself! I was expecting a chipmunk or something.
 
Easy_rider75 said:
Cool pic surprised one would be out in such cold temps to he musta bee hungry LOL :D
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Surprised me to, don't normally see them this time of year in this temp. It has been warm for january however. It was 38 degrees today but 2 days ago it was in the high 40's. Maybe he thought spring was starting lol.

I got some video of him bowing up and striking towards me and he was moving a little slow.
 
The head does look kind of triangular to be a non poisonous.. Any positive ID from our snake experts
 
Does this kind of worry anyone else here? Think on it this way. If that snake is out, that means other animals are out when they shouldn't be. The way the weather has been, a sudden cold spell will kill all or most of these creatures. These impacts will lead in further decline of population of organisms. This really worries me. I see all sorts of bugs, spiders, and creatures that should be sleeping in my neck of the country. I cannot help but think that these die offs will lead to mass extinctions. Maybe that seems a long stretch but remember that most things in nature are not in ones or twos. They are far more magnified than that. Keep in mind that this change in weather patterns is really only the beginning. Once again this snake out in January is weird and in no way normal. Anyone else with me or do I stand alone on this?
 
My Grandmother had that fear too. Couldn't watch them on TV either. She also used to hide in the closet during thunder storms.
 
gwynn1975 said:
The head does look kind of triangular to be a non poisonous.. Any positive ID from our snake experts
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I had that thought to, but there are only three native poisonous snakes in Ohio and I know it isn't any of those.

I don't expect one migrated from across the country so unless someone went out and dropped it off I am going with it being a Northern Brown Snake unless someone can definitively point out otherwise.
 
hellhammer said:
Does this kind of worry anyone else here? Think on it this way. If that snake is out, that means other animals are out when they shouldn't be. The way the weather has been, a sudden cold spell will kill all or most of these creatures. These impacts will lead in further decline of population of organisms. This really worries me. I see all sorts of bugs, spiders, and creatures that should be sleeping in my neck of the country. I cannot help but think that these die offs will lead to mass extinctions. Maybe that seems a long stretch but remember that most things in nature are not in ones or twos. They are far more magnified than that. Keep in mind that this change in weather patterns is really only the beginning. Once again this snake out in January is weird and in no way normal. Anyone else with me or do I stand alone on this?
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I'd rather just be afraid of the snake like the other dude.
 
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hellhammer said:
Does this kind of worry anyone else here? Think on it this way. If that snake is out, that means other animals are out when they shouldn't be. The way the weather has been, a sudden cold spell will kill all or most of these creatures. These impacts will lead in further decline of population of organisms. This really worries me. I see all sorts of bugs, spiders, and creatures that should be sleeping in my neck of the country. I cannot help but think that these die offs will lead to mass extinctions. Maybe that seems a long stretch but remember that most things in nature are not in ones or twos. They are far more magnified than that. Keep in mind that this change in weather patterns is really only the beginning. Once again this snake out in January is weird and in no way normal. Anyone else with me or do I stand alone on this?
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You're right, hellhammer, it does seem a long stretch. To take the sighting of one snake to such an extreme conclusion is illogical. there's not enough evidence to support any conclusion other than this one snake happened to be out and about at an unusual time of year.
No offense meant, just saying.
 
gwynn1975 said:
The head does look kind of triangular to be a non poisonous.. Any positive ID from our snake experts
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actually not all snakes with triangular heads are poisonous..... when people think of triangular heads they are thinking of vipers... not all snakes with triangular heads are Vipers.... but you also need to remember that just because a snake does not have a triangular head does not mean its not poisonous... the coral snake up here comes to mind... his head is small and round like... of course the king snake is his non venomous mimic.... ( If red touches yellow he will kill a fellow... if red touches black your okay jack....)

I hope you can make out the triangular head in this picture.... its a southern Pacific rattler.... very bad bite they got.... they have been known to have neurotoxin's....

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hellhammer said:
Does this kind of worry anyone else here? Think on it this way. If that snake is out, that means other animals are out when they shouldn't be. The way the weather has been, a sudden cold spell will kill all or most of these creatures. These impacts will lead in further decline of population of organisms. This really worries me. I see all sorts of bugs, spiders, and creatures that should be sleeping in my neck of the country. I cannot help but think that these die offs will lead to mass extinctions. Maybe that seems a long stretch but remember that most things in nature are not in ones or twos. They are far more magnified than that. Keep in mind that this change in weather patterns is really only the beginning. Once again this snake out in January is weird and in no way normal. Anyone else with me or do I stand alone on this?
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I have seen snakes out on warm winters days several times You don't need to worry if it gets to cold they will go back in their hole.... they hibernate differently then a bear does.... as for the other critters nature has a way of balancing itself out.... Nature is stronger then we give her credit for...
 
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hellhammer said:
Does this kind of worry anyone else here? Think on it this way. If that snake is out, that means other animals are out when they shouldn't be. The way the weather has been, a sudden cold spell will kill all or most of these creatures. These impacts will lead in further decline of population of organisms. This really worries me. I see all sorts of bugs, spiders, and creatures that should be sleeping in my neck of the country. I cannot help but think that these die offs will lead to mass extinctions. Maybe that seems a long stretch but remember that most things in nature are not in ones or twos. They are far more magnified than that. Keep in mind that this change in weather patterns is really only the beginning. Once again this snake out in January is weird and in no way normal. Anyone else with me or do I stand alone on this?
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It will be fine. Its just one dumb snake.
 
oh yeah and did you notice the black beady eye..... I thought all venomous snakes had slanted eyes :9:
 
I will leave the identification to the experts. I'm not familiar with brown snakes. For some reason (at least in the US) non venomous snakes in their juvenile state do not look like they will as an adult, making them much harder to identify. Venomous snakes are born as a mirror image to their parents. It's body appears to be too thickly proportioned to be in the garter snake family. There are species of smaller "ground snakes" (a generic term) which are thicker built. And sometimes a snake can"flatten" itself, making it look thicker than it is.
As far as "venomous" snakes go, the only one normally listed as such in the US that doesn't have a triangular snake is the coral snake. There are other species, notably the "rear fanged" snakes (such as ringed neck snakes), which have venom. However these present no danger to man in that their venom is produced in such small volumes and/or is too weak chemically.
I do know that black rats and kings tend to have more triangular looking heads when they get very large, as well as water snakes.
 
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