Airspace closed over El Paso and New Mexico



Current updates....Drug drones?
If it was that, why would they use them so close to a major city? There's hundreds of miles of border that's out in the middle of nowhere. Way less risk to get your drugs across a rural stretch of the border if my guess is right.
 
My early ancestor first came to the Massachusetts colony less than a decade after Plymouth colony was founded. He was the bastard son of a British baron, the only surviving male child (the title was eventually given to the baron's daughter, and the family line died out a century later), and had no future in England, and so he came to America to build a life that would never be possible in England. He settled in southern Maine, the family spread all throughout Massachusetts and eventually New England. Several generations later, a descendant came down to Florida, as a captain in the US Navy charged to build and maintain navigational aids in western Florida. He and his sons built and staffed the lighthouse at what is now known as Fort Barrancas near Pensacola. My relatives fought in the Civil War, on both sides. As a boy, my father's family farm was located on what is now NAS Pensacola's Saufley Field. My grandfather worked there, first while in the Navy, later as a civilian machinist in charge of the propellor shop. My father joined the Navy in 1944, went into the V12 program for flight officer candidates, left it when it was stopped as the war ended, finished his degree and rejoined the Navy in 1949. I am the first male in my line of descent who did not make the Navy a career. My wife is the first person married by my ancestral line whose family came to the US after the Revolutionary War; her father's family were a Hutterite offshoot of Tyrolians who fled southern Austria to escape Catholic persecution around the time of the Reformation, and came to the US in the late 1800s after 300 years in the Ukraine.

People mostly emigrate when things aren't going well for them at home. Perhaps that is one factor that makes America exceptional; most of our ancestors came here not just because things weren't going well but also because they were willing to risk it all and come here for a new chance. That willingness to work hard combined with the courage to put it all on the line is baked into our culture.
 
@Guttersnipe and @rmorgan736 your families were the immigrants my ancestors probably complained about. My family got to what would become the US in 1633 and there are indications the Pilgrims complained about us. And I bet the Indians had some hard words for all of us. The entire history of the country is people complaining about immigrants.

Henry Cabot Lodge:


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That's what Americans had to say about your families when they came over, and now you're the backbone of the country.
Apparently, based on your post, you really didn't read mine.
My family learned the language.
They learned to speak, read, and write it.
There was no "push 1 for English"
They called themselves Americans, not Italian-Americans.
My great grandfather was a Mason, and my grandfather was a ship builder in the Brooklyn Navy yards.
My father went to Vietnam, came home, got married, and drove a tractor trailer till a few years ago when he retired in his 70's.
I have been working since 1983, when I was 12 years old.
Try reading again what one of our greatest presidents, Theodore Roosevelt said.
That's what my family did.
No illegal immigrants are doing that.
They work to send money home, pay no taxes for the common good of the citizens of this country. Only to exploit it, and take whatever they can.
Living in Texas, I know many, many people who immigrated here legally and they despise those that cut in line as they feel it reflects poorly on them.
They love this country, and have our flag flying proudly from their home.
 
Party balloon?
I've seen that. It looks like earlier this week there was a bunch of party balloons that floated across the border, we shot them down thinking they were drones, then when we went to recover the wreckage saw that it was a bunch of balloons. Last night a cartel drone strayed into US airspace by accident and we shot it down. At least that's the best I can piece together right now.
 
How did your family get here and why did they come? Seems like if you go back far enough everyone’s family came here to a better life.
My family came by boat. Their first stop was Ellis Island. They didn't sneak in and use someone's identity to secure bank accts. , a place to live and a job. How about you? Did your family sneak across the border? Also, how do you think your forebearers if they did it the legal way, would react to someone entering illegally ?
 
These were drug drones. Now, from what I understand, the operators of the drones are nowhere to be found now. Take that for what you will :)
 
My father’s line predates the 1700’s,,, Mother’s family came in the 1890’s… Don’t make any difference to me how they came…

Easy fix though, jail anyone or any company who hires an “illegal”; no opportunity, no reason to be here
 
Apparently, based on your post, you really didn't read mine.
My family learned the language.
They learned to speak, read, and write it.
There was no "push 1 for English"
They called themselves Americans, not Italian-Americans.
My great grandfather was a Mason, and my grandfather was a ship builder in the Brooklyn Navy yards.
My father went to Vietnam, came home, got married, and drove a tractor trailer till a few years ago when he retired in his 70's.
I have been working since 1983, when I was 12 years old.
Try reading again what one of our greatest presidents, Theodore Roosevelt said.
That's what my family did.
No illegal immigrants are doing that.
They work to send money home, pay no taxes for the common good of the citizens of this country. Only to exploit it, and take whatever they can.
Living in Texas, I know many, many people who immigrated here legally and they despise those that cut in line as they feel it reflects poorly on them.
They love this country, and have our flag flying proudly from their home.

It seems like you're making the same arguments against modern immigrants that Henry Cabot Lodge made against your family. But as I pointed out in my last post, your family is the backbone of this country. Does that not give you pause? Do you not think, "if it was foolish when used against my family, maybe it's not right for this moment either?"

When I sold my tools a few months back, all the buyers spoke Spanish as their first language, and all of them spoke English to some degree. They're all trying to work their way up in the world, just like you or me. Those guys in particular are literally building the country around us. In my neighborhood in Durham, if it was daylight you could hear their nailguns, any day of the week.
 
How did your family get here and why did they come? Seems like if you go back far enough everyone’s family came here to a better life.
Yes…LEGALLY…through Ellis Island.
 
Fascinating that a thread on airspace closure turned into an immigration debate complete with personal insults, name calling and general incivility in less than twelve hours.

The Preparedness forum continues to be a cesspool.

And yet here I am watching the train wreck. :rolleyes:
 
If it was that, why would they use them so close to a major city? There's hundreds of miles of border that's out in the middle of nowhere. Way less risk to get your drugs across a rural stretch of the border if my guess is right.
A lot of stories go like this, goofy answers that don't add up..and no conclusion to be found...lol, back to my first post....Likely, we will never know....
 

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