Bark River Done?


Starting positive - Bark River have been infecting me with the knife virus many years ago. Their huge variety of different models and material combinations were stunning. I have and had many great designed knives.

Over the years I owned probably around 100 BRs.

Somewhere in 2019 or 2020 I received a new Bravo 1.5LT 3V with Impala handle from a famous US dealer. Some details for you, have a look at the non-existing connection between blade and liners and at the additional grinding notch:

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That was a turning point for me, because I was sure that some of their workers have poor skills and no sense for quality. It also shows that there was either no proper cleaning and glueing, not the right handle material quality and/ or no quality control before packaging.

Knowing that there are some gaps within those processes, I assumed there are also issues within other processes. That's why I significantly reduced my Bark River inflow and increased the sales of my collection.

I am not saying that their knives are not good in general, but I lost a lot of trust in them at that time.

The current news indicate severe process and business issues. Beside poorly managed processes, competiton increased.

Even knowing all that and the latest news, I really appreciate what they did to me the global knife community.

I still hold a couple of Quatermasters and Bravos, which are really great knives.
 
When I asked Gemini Pro (one of the AI LLMs) about the legal ramifications:

The recent admission by Bark River Knives' owner, Mike Stewart, that the company used Chinese steel blanks on several models while marketing them as premium American steel and "Made in the U.S.A." opens the door to significant legal exposure. Although the company abruptly closed its doors in March 2026, the legal ramifications for these business practices are severe and multifaceted.

Here is a breakdown of the legal consequences Bark River Knives and its ownership could face:

1. Violations of the FTC's "Made in USA" Rule

In his public statement, Stewart claimed that because his crew performed over five operations on the imported blanks (regrinding, reshaping, heat treating, handling, etching, and boxing), the knives met the criteria for a "Made in U.S.A." label. Under federal law, this is an incorrect interpretation.
  • The "All or Virtually All" Standard: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) requires that for an unqualified "Made in U.S.A." claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the United States. This means the product can contain no—or only negligible—foreign content
  • The Core Component Rule: Because the steel blade is the primary, essential component of a knife, importing the steel blank automatically disqualifies the product from an unqualified "Made in U.S.A." label, regardless of how much finishing work is done stateside.
  • FTC Penalties: Under the 2021 Made in USA Labeling Rule, the FTC can seek civil penalties of up to roughly $53,000 per violation. Recent FTC enforcement actions have hit companies with multi-million dollar fines for similar deceptive labeling.

2. Consumer Fraud and False Advertising

Beyond the country-of-origin issue, deliberately mislabeling the type of steel is a textbook case of false advertising.
  • Deceptive Trade Practices: Admitting to stamping knives made from cheaper Chinese equivalents (like 9Cr18MoV) as premium American particle metallurgy steels (like CPM-154) violates both federal and state deceptive trade practice laws.
  • Class Action Lawsuits: Consumers who paid premium prices for what they believed was high-end steel have grounds to file class-action lawsuits for fraud, breach of warranty, and unjust enrichment, seeking refunds and damages.

3. State-Level Consumer Protection Laws

Several states have their own aggressive consumer protection statutes that carry heavy penalties for this type of deception.
  • Strict State Thresholds: California, for example, has strict laws (such as Business and Professions Code § 17533.7) allowing for lawsuits if foreign components exceed a very small percentage of the product's wholesale value.
  • Attorney General Action: State Attorneys General can independently sue companies for defrauding residents of their states.

4. Individual and Corporate Liability

Even though Bark River Knives has ceased operations, the legal fallout does not necessarily end with the company's closure.
  • Piercing the Corporate Veil: Because Stewart publicly admitted that the deceptive practice was "100% my Fault" and his personal choice, regulators and plaintiffs could potentially hold him personally liable. The FTC frequently targets individual executives in these cases, pursuing their personal assets rather than just the bankrupt company's remaining estate.
  • Creditor Claims: Unpaid suppliers and employees can also lay claim to whatever company assets remain during the liquidation or bankruptcy process, adding another layer of legal entanglement.
Translation: No one else could have screwed Mike Stewart worse than he screwed himself.

It's gonna suck to be him for the next few years.
 
  • The "All or Virtually All" Standard: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) requires that for an unqualified "Made in U.S.A." claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the United States. This means the product can contain no—or only negligible—foreign content
IDK about that:


Spyderco Shaman, says "origin, United States", blade is Boehler M390 which is made in Austria (not disguised). IANAL and also don't take AI output seriously, so will be interested to see how the lawsuit plays out. Certainly grinding off "Made in China" markings was total sleaze.
 
IDK about that:


Spyderco Shaman, says "origin, United States", blade is Boehler M390 which is made in Austria (not disguised). IANAL and also don't take AI output seriously, so will be interested to see how the lawsuit plays out. Certainly grinding off "Made in China" markings was total sleaze.

I guess this is where things get nuanced. Putting your feedback back into Gemini produced this:

The Distinction: Under FTC rules, a product can still be "Made in USA" if the "substantial transformation" happens in the States, but it must be a qualified claim if significant components (like the steel) are imported. Spyderco is generally transparent about this—everyone knows M390 comes from Boehler-Uddeholm in Austria. They aren't pretending the steel was forged in Colorado; they are stating the knife was manufactured there using that specific premium import

The Lawsuit Outlook

While I'm also not a lawyer, the legal "play" here for Bark River looks grim. The FTC has been cracking down on "Made in USA" fraud since 2021, with the ability to seek civil penalties of up to $50,000+ per violation. In Bark River's case, every single knife sold with a ground-off "China" mark could technically be its own violation.
 
Anyone have any idea of the total number of knives affected?
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It is a solid, respected and tested part of both civil and military law -- US and international -- that if you obey an order, directive or assignment that you know to be wrong, you are liable.

Period, paragraph, end of story.
Yep. "I was just following orders" has never been a valid excuse and it definitely ceased to be one with the end of WWII.
 
In my opinion…If Mike Stewart admitted that he’s been doing this for months, it’s probably been years. And this calls into question the validity and value of each every BRK knife ever produced under Mike’s ownership. I think every customer has the right to a test that can find out if their knives are indeed the steel they are alleged to be. And it should be at Mikes expense. And for every knife that isn’t the claimed steel, they should be given the opportunity to sell back their knife at full paid price…again at Mikes expense. Theres no way that man should just get to walk away with a sorry…All his assets should be seized and liquidated to make things right
 
I can't imagine he could ever afford to financially reimburse everybody.

It's quite a scandal in the knife world. What a shame.

I imagine there will be knifemakers pop-up who used to work there, starting their own game. That happened when Marbles shut down too. I bought a knife from one of the Marbles employees who started selling knives. I'm fairly certain he stole some blades or steel from the company and made knives from it. He did a fairly crude job and I didn't keep the knife for long.
 
IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
Jim Stewart will be opening his own Knife Company
100% Independent of Bark River Knives.
Jim has agreed to take over all of the Warranties that would normally go to Bark River.

Let me guess, the new company will be named Rark Biver Knives and will sell all the same knives as before.
 
Just like when he burned down Blackjack, and went to Marbles, or when he wrecked Marbles and started Bark River.

Mamba = Evo

Rinse and repeat.

More people would have known what he is, if he didn't threaten legal action on everyone who tried to speak up, and at times at forums for what a poster said on their forum.
 
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From what I saw on FB, the premade blanks had a sticker on the knife or bag that said "Made in China", so those were getting removed. It doesn't seem that they were grinding much off since it was a sticker, but they were re profiling and tweaking the grinds on them supposedly. Many of the kits look like the generic kits that most knifemakers supply houses carry from China. PKS, a known retailer of these, announced it was going out of business recently and looking to sell the business to someone and had fire sales of their own inventory recently, so I wonder if that's what prompted a lot of this? Maybe his blank supply was drying up?

When I first started "making knives" many years ago in the late 90's, I used some of the premade blades and adding handles to them, and I quickly saw they sucked. Soft steel, no edge retention to speak of, etc. Thats what got me into making knives back in the late 90's and early 2000's when I got some belt sanders and could grind my own steel and send them out for heat treating until I stopped in 2004/2005 ish. There are newer blanks (Jantz Pattern, Swedish Puukko brands, etc) that are decent quality, but not near CPM steel performance, that I played with again around 2008-2015 when I was making stuff for family and friends and when I was rehandling Japanese kitchen knives as a hobby. I have used them on occasion and customers were told up front what they were and that I was only adding handles to them. I noticed a change around 2018 or 2019 when I started doing some more kitchen knife blanks and fillet knives for people again. The steel was often switched from AUS-8A or what it was originally to its "Chinese equivalent" and they went downhill big time! Rough edges, crumbly edges, etc. Cost more, and the steel was worse. So I got back into grinding my own blades again just before Covid. I know many of the lower quality blanks are in the $10-$30 range for a ground and heat treated blank. The Jantz/Enzo/Brisa stuff using nicer steels is more $$ as are the Damascus blanks.

In comparison, from my own experience, I know getting blanks water jet from NJSB for a knife just under 9" OAL in 1/8" thick Magnacut was around $36/blank a couple years ago, before heat treating and grinding. Same blank in Nitro V was around $12-$15 IIRC. I had NJSB water jet around 30 blades for me a few years ago of my own design to help speed my knife making along instead of individually cutting and profiling each one individually. Steel prices have done up since then as well! With steels like 52100, 80CRV2, Nitro V, Aeb-L, etc, and the cost for me to make a ground, hardened blank myself compared to what the imports cost, it wasn't much more expensive to do the blank from scratch myself, especially if they were water jet profiled already! I had the blanks done a bit oversize so I could modify the master blanks as needed for different blade shapes and stuff, too. I get a better quality end product that I control completely for not much more than a cheap blank, using decent steels.

I spoke with a supplier that BRK owes around $7K to for materials and found out that other suppliers stopped selling to BRK when the unpaid invoices started piling up for them as well. I saw over the years that some suppliers had material shortages and BRK wasn't able to get materials due to that, but now I wonder how much of it was from suppliers refusing to sell to BRK due to non payment!

DLT was buying the steel for BRK for a while, having it water jet and heat treated, then sent to BRK since steel suppliers didn't want to deal with BRK anymore. Hopefully the blanks they received were the ones they bought the steel for and not subbed out for the Chinese blanks! KSF posted that they will issue a store credit for the models effected and work on getting them shipped back to KSF. Not sure what DLT is doing in that regard for the effected models DLT is doing refunds and taking them back if wanted, or partial refund if they want to keep the knife it sounds like (watching the DLT video now) and looks like they are sending samples of what they have in stock to have it metallurgy tested to see what steel they are made from. I believe both dealers pulled those effected models from their websites, too? I've been trying to keep up over the past several days, but it's dizzying!

Stewart said they tested the steel in the China blanks and it had pretty much equivalent edge retention, toughness and more stain resistance than CPM154, so they considered it very close to CPM154, so it will be interesting to see what steel it actually is and how it actually performs. From what I have seen in the past with these blanks from China, they are definitely NOT "equivalent" or anywhere close!

People are questioning even older blanks, so it will be interesting to see how far back this stuff goes. I have read of concerns of this over the years and saw complaints back in 2006 with the Chinese made blanks, etc.

I am glad that the employees got their last paycheck, but it really sucks for the employees, the suppliers and dealers, collectors, etc. BRK knew they were in trouble and tried to keep the ship a float, but went down anyway and looked really bad doing it. The value of their older (hopefully legit) knives is in question, too!

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If you have Facebook please turn your attention to the page ‘Bark River Knives Problems’ I’ve known of it’s existence since its beginning but figured I knew enough already to not need to join another group. But checking in on it today is mind blowing - allegations and ‘proof’ of sexual assault and pedophilia…
 
Yup, like I said, Crusty Curmudgeon. That's how I first "met" Mike Stewart. We worked it out, formed a truce, and went on from there.
My first "interaction" with MS, was when Hoodoo told me to shut up before MS sues him for saying his handle choices looked like they came from the ball return at a ladies bowling league. That was 2002 or 2003, in a private forum with less than 100 members, that had splintered off of the old Outdoor Survival forum.

He has been this way since the 80's at least.
 
My first "interaction" with MS, was when Hoodoo told me to shut up before MS sues him for saying his handle choices looked like they came from the ball return at a ladies bowling league. That was 2002 or 2003, in a private forum with less than 100 members, that had splintered off of the old Outdoor Survival forum.

He has been this way since the 80's at least.
Mine was in the early 90s, I think.
 
Erica's EDC has a 38 minute segment that I haven't watched. I might look at the transcript later.

The accusations cover many years.

Lots of speculation about who knew what.
 
That's a nice sentiment and all but health insurance, gasoline, groceries and education have never been more expensive and you expect these people to lose their jobs(in THIS period of inflation!) over the making of goods that people spend money on as a 1st world hobby?
Get real.
Edited to add, sorry about the "get real" comment. That was rude.
No worries I have thick skin. If you're willing to engage in fraud to get paid you're a thief full stop I dont care how many excuses you come up with
 

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