Just random thoughts on warm woollen pants


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Or trousers if you prefer that term.
The most common woolen pants here in Oz are old style army battledress, and when I can find my size I buy them.
But they have a few problems for cold weather wear, as they are not a very heavy weight wool serge. Normally I would get some Nixwax and treat them to be more water resistant[ I find that the Nikwax is better than using lanolin] and the knees wear out fast so I sometimes deconstruct them and add a wear layer.
A while ago I found some cheap merino fabric in a tartan/plaid in a scraps pile very cheap and my beloved sewed me up some LW pull-ons for wearing around the house.
This reminded me that during the Korean war pajama type long johns were issued to Australian troops as well as the woollen knee length winter underwear as an added layer in the frigid conditions. I know that a few American makers still offer woollen trouser liners for really cold conditions.
Perhaps such a system is the best of both worlds, a heavy duty and relatively hard wearing outer pants with a soft and fluffy merino inner liner, paired when necessary with a windproof outer layer and whatever base layer you feel most comfortable in.
Not that I need such a system here in our soggy winters, polar fleece and high-loft synthetics make much more sense here and I usually only wear wool pants when deer hunting and that happens less often these days.
Perhaps tho the polyester M-65 liners and the better solution, it's just that wool inners might also work with the poly to give a three layer insulation providing the outer pants were voluminous enough.
As I said; just some random thoughts as it's too hot [ 42C] outside to go and do anything much
 
Hooooraaaaah MoonDog...

Mostly, in America these days, no one calls them trouser liners.... Base layers and intermediate layers are more common terms.... I very rarely observe hunters to wear woolen overalls or outer layers these days, outside of Northern New England. There are some very good to excellent woolen long johns out there.... the old Duofold two layer merino wool and polyester lined Longjohns are now made by Cold Pruff, I believe... They seem to be close enough to the quality and performance of the Duofold product. There are several other brands available with mostly wool, wool blends or 100 percent wool longjohns.... My absolute favorite woolies are made in Canada by Stanfield's... Their heavy wool Long johns, Henley shirts and Onesies (Canadian for Union Suit...) are the best in the business for warmth and durability.... They do have a bit of woolie scratchiness to them until the second or third washing.... They are washable, but follow their washing instructions.... cold or luke-warm wash and no heat in the dryer cycle... Same with the heavyweight wool Henleys... Awesome warm layering pieces that shine at temps in the single digits and below!

Base layers go next to the skin, and I'm a huge fan of Brynje's Thermo wool mesh Long johns....are comfy next to the skin... the theory behind mesh longjohns works for me. They're a great base layer next to my skin, and under the Stanfields woolies....

Woolie outer layers.... I prefer 18 or 24 oz wool trouser or bibs from LL Bean, Johnsons Woolen Mills, Woolrich (No longer made, I think...?), And Big Bill.... I always size up a couple sizes to make sure there's plenty of room for air to circulate....

Just my 2cw on wooliness...
 
One of the best woolen intermediate layer I have tested is ulfrotte/klar/woolpower 400. It is 70/30 and french terry finish inside.

Also very good is heavy long john from angora wool (rabbit). They are not 100% wool since angora wool is not sturdy enough. Angora wool is really warm.
 
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Well these days they are being sold with the liners sewn in already.
Still part of me thinks that a separate warm liner is far more versatile and I've been working on that for the last week or so.
 
Long canvas gaiters the solution there or canvas overpants I guess

There's a lot to unpack there, Moon Dawgie.... Buying the LL Bean or the Cabellas woolen Hunting trousers with the poly insulated liners generally defeats the moisture moving properties of plain wool ... My only poly insulated woolie trousers are a pair of the Bean Maine Guide trousers.... I rarely wear them , because its just too easy to get sweaty in them.... Guys up in the county will wear them sitting on a stand, or sitting out on the ice, where every extra spot of insulation is appreciated.... but if I'm moving around at all, that poly insulation layer causes more issues than it solves....

Same thing with canvas gaiters... Upland hunting I wear tin cloth brush chaps and usually treat them to be a bit water-repellent .... but that's more often than not a sweaty damp day afield, whatever I do....

Stick with the separate warm liner /base layer... That set up is far more easy to tailor for all conditions than the built in poly liners
 
I haven't gotten my nylon/wool trousers out in the field in the winter yet. I imagine they will work well, like any other decent soft shell layer.

I typically carry a nice oversized pair of fleece pajama pants to throw on over my gear when I am sitting around and get cold.
 
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Stick with the separate warm liner /base layer... That set up is far more easy to tailor for all conditions than the built in poly liners
Well that's what I usually do; using the old poly liners but that's new school not Old School and this is "Bushcrafting" after all.
I just pulled my half finished trouser project out of the UFO bin so I might actually get something done with those in time for winter here.
 
West German army surplus - $15 long ago, thought they were a good deal. They’ve gone up more than they should have
 

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