Litefighter Recondo 1 Jungle Hammock System?


No. Just the tent.

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A hammock like the Clark NX or the DD Super Light Jungle can be used on the ground as a bivy if no trees are present. I would add a tarp and a footprint to protect the bottom of the hammock. https://dutchwaregear.com/product/clark-nx-270/...
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I have an older version of the Clark that I talk about but you should really take a look at the DD.
 
zeke500 said:
That's an 8' hammock. The basic standard is 10' with 11' and now even 12' are popular. Just because a 6'8" dude will lay in it doesn't mean the sleep is of any quality. There are better choices for that price.
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Absolutely! I'm 6'2" tall and I have to have an 11' long by 72" wide GE hammock (at bare minimum) in order to be comfortable.
 
Well, I don't have any hammock yet.

Only thing I know so far is that I'll probably want to. Some thing that's just simple and light and happens to have a bug net and something more elaborate, but still packs reasonably small.

Hennessy Explorer Ultralite seems popular. I'll check out some reviews on that today.
 
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Odd-Arne Oseberg said:
Well, I don't have any hammock yet.

Only thing I know so far is that I'll probably want to. Some thing that's just simple and light and happens to have a bug net and something more elaborate, but still packs reasonably small.

Hennessy Explorer Ultralite seems popular. I'll check out some reviews on that today.
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Dutchware makes some good ones, recently got the 12 footer with bottom entry bug net.
 
I have a Hennessy Deep Jungle XL Zip, with the snakeskins. It's in the skins with the tarp, so it takes less than a minute to set up. I have a pair of rappelling rings on each tree strap, with a carabiner. I can put the straps on a tree, then run the cord from the hammock through the rappelling rings on each side, and snug it up. A half hitch to secure and I'm done. I have an inflatable pad and that combined with a 45-degree sleeping bag and I'm good for three seasons. When it's hot, I use the sleeping back as a quilt. (I've always used a tent when it's cold.) I can carry the hammock and sleeping back easily in a 30L pack... it takes up about half the volume. A camp stove, a change of clothes, and some other stuff takes up the rest. My Outdoor Axe on the back, a 1L water bottle, a knife, a compass, toiletries, a couple of camping meals, coffee, etc., and a camp chair and a woobie strapped on and I'm around 30 lbs. This is generally what I take moto camping, in one of the panniers on my GSA.

It works surprisingly well. When the hammock is hung correctly, it is very comfortable, for back or side sleeping. I like the Deep Jungle because mosquitos can't bite through it.
 
I'm no sure at all at this point. I just want to start out a bit when winter comes. Warbonnet Blackbird also looks interesting, but I'll have to educate myself a bit because of all the options.
 
I prefer the bottom entry bug net. I feel claustrophobic in a zipped shut hammock. If I gotta jump out to pee I can just roll out and the net doesn't get in the way. I made mine cryptic cricket style from a walmart curtain and elastic cord.

Hennessy hammocks have that weird slot in the bottom for entry don't they? I always thought that was stupid. Dutch or warbonnet.

Keep an eye on the hammockforums.net for sale page. There's aways a chameleon or 1.6 hexon popping up.
 
You can get the Hennessys with a zip or the bottom slot with velcro. I like the zip... you just unzip the bug net where it joins the hammock. How hard is that... and it keeps the bugs out. I also have a Warbonnet Blackbird, got on a trade and have been meaning to try it out, but haven't set it up. I've been perfectly happy with the Hennessy. Between these two I think it's a tossup. I did get the big tarp with the barn doors for the Warbonnet... don't ask me why I have all this stuff. Just in case, I guess.
 
Hennessy seems to be a simple quick one stop shop.

With the Warbonnet stuff I'm already confused with the suspension options. I like all the different other options they offer, though.

It's not going to be a typical camping options for me as hammocks aren't suitable where I go most, but for various types of travel bringing basically just shelter and breakfast pretty much any time of year it may very well be used a lot if it works.
 
In my opinion, there are several problems with Hennessy's product line: One, they are an asym and you don't get to choose which direction - they are Right Lay only. Secondly, they are small - both too short, and too narrow in my opinion. Also, they're made in Communist China.

You'll be supporting an American cottage business if you buy Simply Light, Warbonnet, Dream Hammock or Dutchware instead of Chi-com slave labor, and you can get a larger, roomier hammock made to your own specs for little to no extra cash outlay.

To me, it's a no-brainer. And, I was ( and might still be - I haven't checked in a while) a factory authorized Hennessy dealer. I used to sell their stuff, and Hennessy was the first hammock I tried. I like them - they're very nice people.

If you are a person of small stature, they're great, but even my Explorer Deluxe was like a medieval torture device for me at 6'2" tall/250#.

To be fair - I realized pretty quickly that I could not use any GE hammock and I worked for years to figure out why - even though I had tried just about all of the various makers until, A. - I discovered that I need a 70 to 72 inch wide hammock to get comfortable, and B. - I finally figured out that because of a lot of old injuries I need a hammock that allows me to Left Lay.

Everyone is an individual - so again if you're a smaller person a Hennessy might work for you, but you'll be able to get a hand made hammock exactly like you want/need it if you go with something made by Dream Hammock, Simply Light or Dutch. And a stock BB XLC from Warbonnet is, imho, ten times the hammock any Hennessy product is (and since they're not available in a wide model, they are my least favorite of the makers I've listed - although the Ridgerunner is one of my all time favorite hammocks - I just wish it were a bit bigger). YMMV.
 
I'll be checking out all those then.

It's sort of a winter project along side the hot tent project which I'm also still very undecided on.

The next few months will be rucking with the ICS and my new ruck which should be here next week under normal circumstances, but who knows these days.

I'm 5'9 and sleep on my stomach or either side depending.

Winter around here generally stays around freezeing, though colder this year than usual, but the places I go where this will be most applicable will be a lot colder.
 
If I was to guess now, I'll probably end up with the Blackbird XLC. Quite probably heavy fabric and double bottom, as well. I just like the options I see, like the socks.

Now, when it comes to chioces in regards to suspension I'm quite clueless and I don't actually understand what things mean either. Thick straps, easy to set up and adjust. Whatever that is.

If I could decide on the suspension I could spring for the basic hammock quite soon to play around with and just add the other stuff later. Right now I basically just don't understand, but I'll see if I find some vids that explain the names and differences.
 
Odd-Arne Oseberg said:
If I was to guess now, I'll probably end up with the Blackbird XLC. Quite probably heavy fabric and double bottom, as well. I just like the options I see, like the socks.

Now, when it comes to chioces in regards to suspension I'm quite clueless and I don't actually understand what things mean either. Thick straps, easy to set up and adjust. Whatever that is.

If I could decide on the suspension I could spring for the basic hammock quite soon to play around with and just add the other stuff later. Right now I basically just don't understand, but I'll see if I find some vids that explain the names and differences.
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Whoopie slings are basically a length of Dynema cordage (attached to the hammock) which is spliced into another piece (of Dynema) which in turn attaches to a webbing strap that goes around the tree. It is adjusted by sliding the piece of Dynemia which is attached to the hammock in or out further to adjust the hang. When weight is applied, the splice locks it in place. This is a very ultra- light system for those folks who weigh their packs on a postage scale and try to save every gram of weight.

I'm not interested in saving a few grams, or even a few ounces so I use their webbing/buckle system. Attached to each end of the hammock is a continuous loop of Dynema that has been run thru two triangle shaped aluminum rings. The 1" tree strap is run thru the first ring and doubled back thru the second ring to form a locking arrangement. The opposing end has a sewn loop which is wrapped around the tree and secured with a carabiner. This is still very light weight, and super strong and very simple. Just make sure that the triangles are pointed at the center of the hammock like arrowheads before you climb in. I use this system on most of my hammocks, although I do have cinch buckles on a couple of them. (I prefer the Warbonnet triangle rings). If you have questions, please feel free to ask - I'm glad to help. Happy hangin'!
 
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A hammock is challenged by cold weather. You can get under quilts and all and stay a bit warmer, but a hammock is a 3 season rig, for me at least. When a hammock with a bug net is really nice is in the summer. Much more comfy than a tent, and cooler too. If you can sleep on your sides you can sleep in a hammock. Not on your belly, tho. Get one iwth a double bottom so you can put an insulating pad in there to make it warmer and mosquito-proof. Re the Warbonnet Blackbird products... I have one of those and have slept in it quite a bit, and in rainy weather too. Very comfortable and roomy wih sort of a shelf built in where I can stash things like my glasses, book, flashlight, etc. The suspension I have is just the basic kind that comes with the hammock. It's a long web strap going out and around a tree or something very strong, then coming back thru a simple 2 piece metal thing. Easy and quick to put up and adjust. I use a 9x12 tarp as a rain fly/shade. The usual rain flies that come with hammocks are too small for me. I want extra shelter around my hammock for my gear, my dog, etc. I am very pleased with my Blackbird hammock. It's well made. I've been using it for 7 or 8 years and there's no damage to it.

This guy does a good review on them and he's fun to watch.


Here's the view from my hammock.

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I think the comment above, about one's size and weight, is key. I'm 5'6" and in the 180 to 190 lb range depending on whether I'm being good on exercise and diet. Pretty much any hammock will be long enough for me, and I don't mind the asymettry... you lay flat but at an angle to the ridgeline. I don't see a problem whether it's right or left, to be honest.

If you buy your clothes at the big and tall shops, you might be better served by a hammock maker who provides customization or options. For people like me, in the middle of the male sizing bell curve, the off-the-shelf production stuff works well.

While I do watch the weight of what I carry, I'm not a weight weenie. I mean, if I want to carry 5 lbs less... I just need to diet for a couple of weeks. I have plenty of spare energy I lug around... more than I need, that's for sure.
 
It is mainly about the suspension, so when I figure what everything on their option list means I may just order.

I think it will be nice to have a complete system for when that's the plan and I can look a bit more civilized. Then I can get something simpler to combine with the military stuff later.

I'll spend a couple of evenings looking more at it.
 
Couldn't help myself and ordered the Recondo yesterday.

I see I have spent a lot of money lately, but then I remember how much of that went to fill up the freezer and then I feel better.

It almost seems like winter is already over here. It's just raining a lot. Weather has turned really strange these last few years and the change is anything but constant.

Plan to probably get an insulated hammock from Superior Gear for next winter.
 
Please replace the rope suspension system with sort of strap. The ropes will do a lot of damage to the trees that you will be hanging from.
 
Well, it has to get here first.

With the current weather chances are I'll be trying it out sooner rather than later, though.
 
It's here.

Not tested it out yet as it's been raining a lot and sideways with force.

Obviously, part of me choosing the gear I do is f or it to be able to work regardless, but it's not really a fun time to do a first test like that.

I actually have something I think Ican use as an underquilt with the Tactical Poncho.
 
Here's my first setup. I had other plans, but without snowshoes this is how far I got.

I've been walking in deep snow every trip for a while, but the hard top and deep, soft and wet under made it worse than a ball pit.

I just got a Carinthia undequilt for it, but forgot to take pctures with that on.

When things on the ground improve I'll go spend the night where I initially intended to go today.


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Vryce said:
Please replace the rope suspension system with sort of strap. The ropes will do a lot of damage to the trees that you will be hanging from.
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I'll look into that.

The pines I did my first hang on probably did fine, though.
 
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